To NeonMadman and others.
I'm refering to Satanism as the total of rituals and such used, not to just classical or "popular" Satanim (although why would such a sect admit what they''re doing, they are just keeping secrets alive. It doensn't matter how you call this, it happens. It happened to me and countless others). Why tell what you're really doing to the public if keeping it's secret is better for the agenda. So of course you will not hear things like this in organisation like WTS or from people who openly admit to practising Satanism (Do what thou willst is the whole of the law). I've read into a lot of this about these things but it tells you little of what actualy happens
Accounting this to a vivid imagination ( i do have one but i'm extremely skeptical) and believing things easy (oh my God, don't ever say that again, you should know! haha) is down playing the things iv said here, wich did happen and still happen to others. U can believe it or not (most don't believen even tho the christian faith tells them about the existence of demons) but like i told you i cannot prove it. So i respect you're opinion about the lack of credulity of it(i read David's book after the fact also because i recognize some of the things he's saying) , wich is logical, it's unbelievable. Just don't turn to saying that in certain words i'm telling fairytales, because i'm not joking around here, i take crimes like these very seriously, you don;t kid around with that. This is not just a figment of my imagination! People always resort to using that argument when they did not see it for themselves or cannot explain it. The guys doing horrible things like this, are just content with that attitude. I didnt expect something different tho
that other JW's and ex-jw's never heard of this before is no surprise because it's an entirely covert operation . It's an organisation wthinin an organisaton wich is kept very secret. The victim usually disassiocate from the happening. they're mind blocks it. That's why it usually doesn;t come out through them but their behaviour reveals much to the trained i.
There are "proofs"of existence of God, and also of demons just as there are proofs of an afterlife or proofs of reincarnation. It still is a choice to believe it or not and mostly people will not want to believe the worst because often it is too much. See how jw-dubs still react to the ongoing situation of child molesters in the organisation. They keep their eyes shut. Exactly the same thing is going on with the ritualistic shit, whatever name you want to give it.
I like to let the subject go now if you don't mind
peace
ps. I would like to add, that turning to official outlets of information on Satanism is the worst case of a low threshold of skepticism because that is just the place to manipulate things. Really, websites like these just given openly knowledge wich is just not even half the story. i mean think straight do you really think that because a story got debunked earlier that covers the whole ritual-situation? And that you then know exactly what is going on, nothing is further from the truth. It's a mentality like this that keeps dubs in the organisation because they think the WTS is giving them all the info there is. No offense intended but this is a classical reply wich i have seen alot
Just an extra point
Edited by - Syndromology on 15 August 2002 13:32:48
