At least a few people here understand this.
How can i let people mail me with them all seeing my email adres?
Syndro
...... do not use details when describing any abuse that happened to you while posting under this section.
if you need to use details, please, i ask you to put 'details' along with the subject under its appropriate section.
for those who have been abused, details can trigger them and cause mental and physical storms that can last for days and cause self destructive tendancies to surface or even impair the ability to function.
At least a few people here understand this.
How can i let people mail me with them all seeing my email adres?
Syndro
this is my first post at this website i discovered a week ago and just love.
it so hilarious sometimes.
i used to post on pro-witness sites long ago but got rejected after a apostate attack!!
Yep, I got the message. I will not get into it further. You are absolutely right Mimily. I see you know more about it. This is why i will cease this subject's existence.
Hey Rado, to be complete my father is from Surinam and my mother from Curacao and i can't speak both of the language. By the way are you the guy that was in the newspaper. I can remember my parents showing it to me for getting me to see the light. They only had one half of the paper. They told me you stopped believing in God wich is a possibility. My views have changed a lot to but i still believe there is a source for live from wich everything is made of. Living and loving energy that has always been there an will never go away, if you will.The evolutiontheory (i do believe in microevolution, but not the big picture, too mythological!) doesn't do it for me and still doesn't explain why there would be something like this. What causes the mechanism for life? Well we'll talk about that in another thread
Thanx for responding guys
this is my first post at this website i discovered a week ago and just love.
it so hilarious sometimes.
i used to post on pro-witness sites long ago but got rejected after a apostate attack!!
Hey Rado, i saw your post. They were excellent. I totaly agree with you on the BCE method. I don't defend this to. It was more to show were they were coming from. I have my serious doubts about the method (the human is more than flesh and brains) and that's why i din't do another session. My obsession is not really big like you say (the post were responses to attacks, that's not an obsession by any means although i must admit i brought i up again). In daily life i don;t discuss this, so that's a bit exxxxxagerating. It's hard to prove it to be a fact, but still i believe it so, that there's is a connection. I mean i alrady learned this from my parents culture (there from the Caribean) that thing like these happen in secret.
It just like people like Van den Heuvel (a JW Spokesman for the Netherlands) say there is little abuse in Holland. Tha's a farce, it's not true as you know. Saying that satanism nearly never happens in classes like theses is a joke though because these are ideal places, places where u won't expect it to happen. It will always be covered up or made ridiculous because that way u can control it without being stoppend. the majority will never believe it, that's the big weapon.
Still , like i said i dont want to go into this because it's a negative topic. Just bring to the surface for a nanosec...
Groetjes
why do people connect to cults like these?.
your responses please, put in all the scientific jargon u can use .
this is fun with you folks!!.
Yeah, i like the dissonance theory. It isa perfect explanation for this phenomenon. Well i think it's more than just a derivative. It's like a circle once you're in this situation the symptom feeds the dissonance more because of still seeing something of the outside world. Especially so with Witness because of the prozelytizing nature of their worship. the problems is perpuated only to be stopped by an incident like you hormones letting you "stumble" hhahaha, or going to great sites like these!! hahah (drip, drip..) and getting excomunnicated, df'ed as they say
this is my first post at this website i discovered a week ago and just love.
it so hilarious sometimes.
i used to post on pro-witness sites long ago but got rejected after a apostate attack!!
oh yeah, i'm officialy still connected, i never DA and i still haven't got DF'd. I did this because of my friend who is still in so he can associate with me, but he doens't want to hurt his family in associating a DF'ed or DA'ed person and getting DF'ed himself, so i understand. I'm gonna write a letter do, stating i no longer want to be associated. Noone in the congr speaks or calls me, only some freaks, so condsidering that i don't miss out on anything. Oh yeah, i deserve to be df'd because i have sex with my lovely girlfriend and don't regret it one minute! haha (i'll post my experience and why it got me out of the Borg in a later post in the adult_forum, this is possible right Simon? :) )
Edited by - Syndromology on 14 August 2002 18:0:28
why do people connect to cults like these?.
your responses please, put in all the scientific jargon u can use .
this is fun with you folks!!.
Why do people connect to cults like these?
Your responses please, put in all the scientific jargon u can use
this is fun with you folks!!
this is my first post at this website i discovered a week ago and just love.
it so hilarious sometimes.
i used to post on pro-witness sites long ago but got rejected after a apostate attack!!
Well to make it worse, although i still don't believe David Icke's (i'm reading his interesting book. The biggest secret!) theories,
i did see reptile people when i was in tha trabuse shit, i was five at the time. The had me on a table with a black robe. They were wearing the same colour. They're faces were reptile like but later i "realised" it were masks......so...i don't. I got scared when i read David's outrageous theories...was it true then? Na, it can't be!!
well
i'm not sure but was'nt there violence before 1914(ww1)?
you know since christ said in the last days, it will be rumors of wars, wars... do the watchtower mean 1914 a.d. or bc or whatever lol... i'm confused and to be honest i never did agree with that 1914 thing, cause first off "1914"(the year) is not found in any bible, and second in revelation chapter 4 verse 1 , (kjv) underlined = prophecys/in the future!..
therefore way before 1914(ww1) violence large scale had to take place before 1914, so in reality there is no date for the signs to start, just watch the signs that christ talked about and heed- luke 21 verse 36.... but i think i'm pretty sure that we are infact living in the last days, and like the father clearly said at revelation chapter 1 verse 3: " the time is at hand " / armageddon / vision of the son of god(christ the prophet, not god)edited by - legendary u.2.k.
You know....i always found it strange that although Jesus didn't say anything about dates except for us not needing to know them, the Watchtower was addicted to all kinds of dates. It was so impressive in my study and also needed to fuel my looking for psychological, mental unconscious safety that i dug that shit. Now since i got out of my coccoon i see it's all bullshit. No wonder the Watchtower kept saying you couldn't read the bible without them. They meant u can't understand our interpretation of it without us because that isn't the meaning of the text to begin with.
My euro's on this topic
this is my first post at this website i discovered a week ago and just love.
it so hilarious sometimes.
i used to post on pro-witness sites long ago but got rejected after a apostate attack!!
Well, how can you prove to people God exist....yes you can't...
The same thing with demons. It's in my memory and people know of satanic rituals. That friend of mine has countless experiences. He has been seriously abused (it's terrible) and his parents are still preaching and in good standing. Well what do you guess, he had one (in this therapy u go back to trauma's, it's called Bad Cluster Elimination) where the guy that baptized him and his father both electricuted him (an often used method for submission), abused him and then let the demon (they can be wicked but are rather pathetic to me). the problem is this also could be the effect of halucigenic drugs they sometimes use. Anyway he was in a ritual that is one things that's for sure. Trust me elders, men and women in good standing are satanic clones wich isn't weird consider the cult is a closed one, a perfect cover for atrocities like these.
U can't prove this because it's unbelievable, that's thier secret, satan's (if he really exists) secret weapon . I didn't believe it at first before i saw it happend to me to
I posted this to a dutch board and i got attacked , even by ex jw's. they say it was none-sense. I wish that were true. If u look into these things you will see that paedophilea, satanism and human sacrifice are usually linked (where do u think missing children end up, usually they wind up dead, mutilated). But there are a lot of cover-up stories because of these people being in the highest places in every religion, every organisation. This sounds like a conspiracy story fantasy, but unfortunately some of the shit is true. Still i don't want to get to much into it because it's painful.
Thanx for responding
i hope my next post is less gruesome. Sorry for the entrance
this is my first post at this website i discovered a week ago and just love.
it so hilarious sometimes.
i used to post on pro-witness sites long ago but got rejected after a apostate attack!!
Hello everyone,
This is my first post at this website i discovered a week ago and just love. It so hilarious sometimes. I used to post on pro-Witness sites long ago but got rejected after a apostate attack!! hahha, go figure
Let me introduce myself
Somebody who left the (B)organisation or the Matrix, known as the WTS almost a year ago. Still have friends there (one of them quit recently with his girlfriend/wife ) who understand and agree with my points. I was the only one in my family and i was only baptized for a year or so being connected 5 years. I was a really study type and i learned a lot quickly. People saw me as an exemplary witness and forsaw a great future hehehe. ah well....
One of those firends of mine was sexually abused and used in satanic rituals (wich go hand in hand. I admire what people like Bill Bowen do , and i hope the best for them but they only know half the story the other part of the story is unbelievable, trust me non-corporeal beings like demons really do exist and some people at high places in the organisation worship them and pretend to worship Jehovah. Thety use children to become vessels for demons because children are easier to break (you have to break their will to let the dark, negative being enter. I have seen it happen to myself in a therapy session, although that hadn't anything to do with the organisation then)The whole business is a cover up trust me. I'm from Holland and there are a lot of victims from this. It's really a network and the Society is happy that doens't come out, that's my opinion. They're acting like the paedophile business is everything but there is more to it
Well anyway, i relaxing now, becoming myself and talking shit with my friends. I'm also a musician so i play alot. I also have girlfriend who makes me happy.
So that's the story about me,
how about some responses!!
greets from Amsterdam :)
Edited by - Syndromology on 14 August 2002 17:13:30