i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
So until 2012 the faithful and discreet slave was wrong about who the faithful and discreet slave is.
But JWs must follow the directives of the faithful and discreet slave--whoever that is--in order to survive Armageddon.
What happens to JWs who followed the directives of the wrong faithful and discreet slave?
you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
Imagine still being dependent on a group of men in New York to micromanage your life like this.
we still have quite a few elderly here that came in as young families in the late 1960's-early 70's because soon, yes very soon they would enter the new system and never grow old.
it's now one year away from 50 years since 1975. just in the last couple years i've seen them come down with alzheimer's, cancer, brain tumors, becoming invalid etc.
the children of them that are now around 60 are just so distraught at seeing their parents deteriorate.
In 1976, I was amazed when an elder told me to stop focusing on 1975.
For years before that, 1975 was all he did focus on.
this is not a verse that i’ve seen feature heavily in trinitarian debates but it seems to me it presents a problem for the trinity.
if there are any around i’d be interested to know your perspective, or anything you can find on the meaning and how it doesn’t contradict the trinity.
the verse says:.
The trinity doctrine does not say that the Father and Son are the same person.
That's a teaching called modalism.
this is not a verse that i’ve seen feature heavily in trinitarian debates but it seems to me it presents a problem for the trinity.
if there are any around i’d be interested to know your perspective, or anything you can find on the meaning and how it doesn’t contradict the trinity.
the verse says:.
The trinitarian view is that this subordination describes the relationship of the Father and the Son, given that the Son is both God and man.
So subordination isn't a contradiction of the trinity doctrine; it's a part of it.
As you know, there are a lot of subordination passages like this, including John 14:28.
Most trinitarians also believe that Jesus rose bodily from the grave, so he is still man as well as God and will be so for all eternity.
mark jones writes:.
how will history treat joseph rutherford?.
like ben gorden has said, it would depend on who’s looking back.
Who today even knows who Rutherford was except people with a JW background?
And I bet most of the younger JWs wouldn't even recognize his name at all.
If they did, it would be like most Americans who might be able to tell you that long ago someone named Millard Fillmore was President but couldn't tell you anything else about him.
for those who are still attending meetings, what is happening at your congregation regarding field service now that reporting of hours is no longer required?.
are the elders pushing for people to go out in service anyway?.
what is the response?.
There was definitely a greater sense of urgency as 1975 neared than there is now.
for those who are still attending meetings, what is happening at your congregation regarding field service now that reporting of hours is no longer required?.
are the elders pushing for people to go out in service anyway?.
what is the response?.
The GB must not believe their own teaching about the imminence of Armageddon.
If they did, wouldn't they be doubling down instead of making all these changes?
for those who are still attending meetings, what is happening at your congregation regarding field service now that reporting of hours is no longer required?.
are the elders pushing for people to go out in service anyway?.
what is the response?.
For those who are still attending meetings, what is happening at your congregation regarding field service now that reporting of hours is no longer required?
Are the elders pushing for people to go out in service anyway?
What is the response?
todays watchtower is very interesting on many levels.
they know that millions are disappointed.. https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=e&prefer=lang&docid=2023681.
i also found it interesting they talk about brother fred franz and show his picture.
Fred Franz is the one who came up with the 1975 fiasco.
He also told young JWs they needn't go to college, seek out careers, or plan for retirement because "you will never grow old in this system of things."
How many people's lives were ruined when these hopes he created came to nothing?
