Posts by factfinder

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New "theocratic history" book for witnesses?

by stuckinarut2 in

so i have heard a few of us talking about a newly released book to replace or add to the proclaimers book?.

is that correct?.

if so, i wonder how much they have re-written history to cover the real truths?.

factfinder

prologos- how is the chapter on producing literature?

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August 2014 Kingdom Ministry (KM - 08/2014 PDF)

by WatchTower87 in

our kingdom ministry august 2014 - special number - :-p. .

instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.

no virus ;-).

we found some people who were happy to welcome us into their homes, even offering us food and drink.. sometimes, they would flag us down and ask for the magazines, walk miles to the kh meetings, come to our defense if someone got ugly or rude.. now, jw's are either routinely ignored or outright vilified.. no one respects them anymore.. sad.. .

factfinder

I agree with the above posts. Being a jw WAS fun for about the first 6 years or so.

I looked forward to the conventions, especially the new books and the dramas. I looked forward to the assemblies till the tone began to change in the late 80's-90's when the talk of the immenent paradise earth was more and more replaced with we are not doing enough. It got depressing going to assemblies, hearing their condemnation of us, making us feel guilty and worried we would die at armageddon. Assemblies USED to be encouraging! Not anymore.

I looked forward to recieving each new magazine in the mail and the annual yearbook.

I had lots of friends among the witnesses and I enjoyed working with them in fs, seeing them at meetings, assemblies and get togethers.

It was exciting being a witness, we were blessed by God and very soon armageddon would come and we would be living in paradise.

But yes, then things began to change. Years went by still no armageddon. GB members died, being replaced with stricter ones.

My friends moved away, I saw corruption among elders in the cong.

I saw more & more statements in the publications which did not match the scriptures cited to support them.

Meanwhile, my wonderful Mom got ill and after several painful years died. I felt Jehovah had betrayed me. Little by little my eyes opened wider and I saw more wrongdoing and inconsistancies.

Then I found out about the UN/NGO thing and my faith in God's organization was shattered. The explanation I recieved from the society was not completely satisfactory. Things in the congregations changed. The warmth was gone, the love was fake and conditional.

I remember back in the 70's you DID meet people at the doors who listened to you and gladly accepted the literature. Of course here in NJ we did not have people invite us in for food or drink, but there were people who listened.

It is a completely DIFFERENT religion now. This new gb is driving everything to the ground and any possible ounce of happiness of being a witness has been stamped out.

The publications look nice but are written for children.

I did have happy times back in the 70's, and early 80's when I believed in "the truth" and things were so much different.

I have no idea how anyone could be happy being a witness now.

And I agree with Magnum too- after seeing behind the wt facade the magic was gone. God's organization is fake. The magazines are not spiritual food from Jehovah, just writings from a religion, a cult.

The religion is totally different from when I began to study.

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New Tract for August 2014 - Scan

by BluesBrother in

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friends

if someone has done this before , i apologise but this was new to me.....struck me as strange that nowadays, the answers to life's problems are found on the internet .

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factfinder

very good one clarity!

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GODS KINGDOM RULES... MY A**

by OneDayillBeFree in

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friends

loecsh just announced a new publication called god's kingdom rules.. looks like crap.. will probably be old light by the time i submit this post.. i feel like i'm live-tweeting an apple event..

factfinder

prologos- it was printed in Germany? same as the Imitate book last year.

I wonder why they are no longer printing them in Wallkill?

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GODS KINGDOM RULES... MY A**

by OneDayillBeFree in

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friends

loecsh just announced a new publication called god's kingdom rules.. looks like crap.. will probably be old light by the time i submit this post.. i feel like i'm live-tweeting an apple event..

factfinder

The new book at 240 pages will be a less comprehensive than the 752 page proclaimers book.

I would like to get a copy of it.

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GODS KINGDOM RULES... MY A**

by OneDayillBeFree in

jw
friends

loecsh just announced a new publication called god's kingdom rules.. looks like crap.. will probably be old light by the time i submit this post.. i feel like i'm live-tweeting an apple event..

factfinder

Excellent points yada yada 2!

And you are right, witnesses will THINK they are subjects of God's kingdom by supporting the wt organization. The great crowd does not yet exist and they are not in the kingdom covenant .

It is just lies by the gb to convince witnesses that by being subject to the gb/organization they are being ruled over by God's Kingdom.

In the gb's mind they think that THEY are God's Kingdom in which case they are ruling over the witnesses!

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GODS KINGDOM RULES... MY A**

by OneDayillBeFree in

jw
friends

loecsh just announced a new publication called god's kingdom rules.. looks like crap.. will probably be old light by the time i submit this post.. i feel like i'm live-tweeting an apple event..

factfinder

yada yada 2-

thanks for the photo of the triumphant kingdom assembly program booklet. I wonder if that is when they released the book "You May Survive Armageddon Into God's New World"?

When I was a witness I always wanted that book but it went out of print before I started studying.

Good question- exactly WHAT is God's Kingdom ruling over? Witnesses say Satan rules the world so it can't be that.

Witnesses will say it is ruling over them.

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New Tract for August 2014 - Scan

by BluesBrother in

jw
friends

if someone has done this before , i apologise but this was new to me.....struck me as strange that nowadays, the answers to life's problems are found on the internet .

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factfinder

BluesBrother- thanks for showing us the new tract!

It points to their website for answers instead of to the Bible.

The GB would tell you Satan is behind google, never use it!

DataDog- I agree! Someday witnesses will be printing out their own kms, tracts from their computers from the jw.org!

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Reconciling animals and suffering

by Pacopoolio in

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we know that christians generally go through ridiculous mental voodoo to explain why a benevolent god allows human suffering, and none of it makes any sense, or is filled with bunk logic.

that's what happens when you try and retrofit a jewish "god is good and evil" religion into a benevolent religion.. .

one of the biggest "trips" to a jw/christian in continuing this line of thought is asking them why god would create animals simply to suffer and die, then, after they try to blame everything on adam (whose brain god supposedly created, and who put him into the exact situation that had an influence on that brain to cause him to sin).

factfinder

No animals should have to suffer.

Humans have far more compassion than "the God of love" does.