if an average of $20 was donated each month by each of the nearly 8 million witnesses the wts would collect almost 2 billion dollars a year!
your grandmother has the same attitude as my brother-put the organization (slave) first, obey the slave.
my mother in law (in her 80's) just told me that she had the elders around to pick up her 'donation' pledge.
it was 'suggested that $20 a month was the average amount pledged but she could pledge more or less.
so, rather than an anonymous amount they have a signed document stating the amount of her pledge.
if an average of $20 was donated each month by each of the nearly 8 million witnesses the wts would collect almost 2 billion dollars a year!
your grandmother has the same attitude as my brother-put the organization (slave) first, obey the slave.
been lurking for a while on here and thought i'd jump in.
a great deal of many thoughtful posts on here but have to say am a bit turned off with the 'rabid apostate' ones!.
my history- was raised in a divided household, mum converted to jw when pregnant with me back in 1970, dad was never jw but was supportive of taking us to meetings, assemblies etc.
welcome Kikura!
You are very fortunate to have found a loving boyfriend and have a happy life.
I gave up meetings all together in 2005 yet the wts still has a weird kind of hold on me though I know the tatt. I wish I could break free completely.
I lost my faith in god after discovering the tatt.
this is one question that trinitarians try to avoid because they have created a very embarrassing problem.
the bible is very clear when the angel tells mary that holy spirit will overshadow her and she will become pregnant.
the angel does not say the father will overshadow her but the holy spirit will and if the holy spirit is a person that would make him the father of jesus.
So Jesus has a physical body in heaven (a man) while all the angels and Jehovah have spirit bodies?
But Jesus is 100% god as is his father and holy spirit-each is 100% god and equal to each other.
Is there a bathroom for Jesus in heaven? A farm to grow his food? a kitchen to prepare it in? Can the father and holy spirit also eat his food? Can the angels? Does Jesus share it with them? Will eating food make them have to go to the bathroom too?
Where in the Bible does it say Jehovah is the father of god?
When Jesus eats and is full do holy spirit and the father feel full too? When Jesus is hungry does the father and holy spirit feel hungry too?
So when Jesus goes to the bathroom do holy spirit and the father have to go too?
she and my dad brought us to the u.s. from ireland in hopes of giving the 4 of us kids a better life with more opportunities.. mom went to school in her village where her mother (my grandmother) was the teacher and the bible was part of the curriculum.
they even used the name jehovah.
her father was a plymouth brethern (think amish or quaker) who was shunned for the rest of his life for marrying my grandmother who wasn't "in the lord"...she belonged to church of ireland.. when the witnesses came to the door after we arrived in the u.s, mom was a shoe-in candidate for their recruitment.
exwhyzee-
Thank you for your post. Please accept my sympathy at the loss of you mom and dad.
My dear Mom who I miss so much died 14 years ago so this is the 14th Mother's day without her and the cult would not let me do anything special for Mom on Mothers day of course. Why did I listen to those hateful, self righteous idiots?
It is a difficult time as you say. I understand. My Mom died April 28, 2000 and my Dad Jan. 10,2006.
And I agree, it is a shame no one will take responsibility for ruining our lives with their false teachings.
the watchtower society is now wanting us to make "fixed donations".
this means they will be spaying and neutering the jehovah's witness population which has sadly become very overrun.
let's help them fix all those jw so they don't reproduce anymore cult spawn.
my jw brother & sister in law did not have children- they decided to wait because armageddon is so close. Now both are too old, no armageddon and no chance to have children thanks to obeying the slave!
police and other security services have been handed a list of banned books that they will seek to remove and destroy in raids planned for the future in azerbaijan.the list mostly contains muslim texts and books such as those by dr. said nursi a muslim theologian.
i addition , this list contains .... .
read the rest of the post here.
In years past they sent "generic" magazines to lands where the literature/work was banned. These magazines have no title, they do not say Watchtower or Awake and some make no mention of who publishes them, Watchtower, Jehovah's witnesses, etc so you can not see who published them. (Of course we know!)
They have the same articles each issue as the regular ones, but no identifying title thus making them hard to ban as they have no name!
I wonder if that will be the case with the magazines there.
And yes, this persecution from "Satan" is further proof of the world being against them and them being Jehovah"s organization-of course they will say that!
this is one question that trinitarians try to avoid because they have created a very embarrassing problem.
the bible is very clear when the angel tells mary that holy spirit will overshadow her and she will become pregnant.
the angel does not say the father will overshadow her but the holy spirit will and if the holy spirit is a person that would make him the father of jesus.
cofty- lol!
Good question!
What do the angels think of him farting, peeing, deficating, etc? Are his farts holy?
How can people believe such things? Oh well, everyone needs to believe or not believe what they want to but I will never accept this trinity nonsense.
Jehovah is not a man.
this is one question that trinitarians try to avoid because they have created a very embarrassing problem.
the bible is very clear when the angel tells mary that holy spirit will overshadow her and she will become pregnant.
the angel does not say the father will overshadow her but the holy spirit will and if the holy spirit is a person that would make him the father of jesus.
sarasmile-Captain Action is my all time favorite action figure! I have various superhero costumes for him such as Superman, Batman, Spider-Man and....Thor! Thor said he is not a trinity!
Chalam- are you just kidding that you think Jesus is still 100% a man, and he eats and breathes in heaven, etc?
The trinity is even stranger than I thought.
well there you have it folks.
they have passed around pieces of paper for each publisher to write.
down how much they are willing to give the society every month for their entire lives!.
MysticMage- I would be insulted if I was going to meetings and they are telling me to pledge money to the gb on a monthly basis. I am unemployed, ill and may be homeless soon.
The society should be sending money to help the poor publishers, not take money from them.
I stopped donating to them long ago and would not even give them a penny either.
I wish people's eyes would open up and they'd see this cult scam.
well there you have it folks.
they have passed around pieces of paper for each publisher to write.
down how much they are willing to give the society every month for their entire lives!.
Most will pay, there will be no rebellion.
The question is: what will they do when pledges keep falling short each month? publisdhers leave? Will the CO suggest elders make up for it by giving more themselves?
Some have got to open their eyes and see what is really happening. It is about the money! Jehovah does not support them- they are asking for money!
And again, what are they doing with all the money that comes in? The gb will not let the public or witnesses ever really know.