Posts by Alfred

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Autologous Blood Transfusion Jehovahs Witnesses

by Marvin Shilmer in

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autologous blood transfusion jehovahs witnesses.

today i uploaded a new article to my blog addressing watchtowers doctrinal position on transfusion of whole autologous blood.

what was once forbidden is no longer forbidden.

Alfred

Blood that is extracted is supposed to travel continuously through a long tube that streches around the hospital several times before any part of it is used on the JW patient. This way, the blood is never actually "stored" since it is constantly flowing through the long and winding tube before it is eventually used.

If it travels through a short tube and is deposited in a collection vessel or other type of container, that constitutes "storage" which conflicts with Biblical principles regarding blood transfusions.

So, before undergoing surgery, JW patents should arrive at the hospital with at least 2,000 feet of 1/4" clear flexible tubing. This should give the blood enough time to flow through the tube without being used...

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Walkill Bethel Recreational Facility

by dontplaceliterature in

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my wife and i just visited some friends over the weekend from another congregation.

these two are both full time pioneers, and also participate in various construction projects around the country.

the husband just got back from a 3 week trip to walkill, new york to help with construction on a new residence building at 'the farm' (does anyone call it that anymore?)..

Alfred

I was just searching Google Maps, and noticed quite a lot of construction adjacent to the west side of Watchtower Farm buildings in Walkhill... could part of that construction possibly include this "Rec center"???

By the way, in the already existing facility, I noticed a massive kidney-shaped swimming pool (approx 60 X 30 feet) with a pool deck and what appeared to be lounge chairs. I guess they decided this pool is too small and now they need an olympic-sized one?

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My Letter to local Newspapaer - Your Feedback Please?

by cofty in

my local congregation has been in the news this week following a successful application for planning permission for a quick build.

a local vicar objected because the application described it as a building for "christain worship".. .

vicar fury at new home for jehovahs .

Alfred

Cofty... you rock!

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Necessary business with Disfellowshipped ones

by Quarterback in

i was reading our study article for next week's wt study there is a subheading in there about treatment of disfellowshipped ones.

in one paragraph they slam the term, "necessary business" when dealing with a family member who is df'd.. this is so confusing.

in one hand they have coined that phrase "necessary business" with relatives that have df relatives.

Alfred

Ambiguity is probably the most widely used mind-control technique used by the WT... not only does it create dependency for "guidance", it also helps mitigate any possible legal action against the borg...

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"Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed

by sizemik in

a complaint regarding this comment was forwarded about a week ago to the nz human rights commission.. it was simply an email outlining the complaint and quoting the paragraph in question.. today i recieved a request for more information as follows .

my name is robert hallowell; i work at the human rights commission as its legal counsel.. .

thank you for your email of 14 september 2011. would you be able to send me a copy of the particular edition of watchtower or a copy of the article that you enquired about?.

Alfred

Assuming it's ok with Sizemik, could someone possibly please send him an actual copy (not a pdf download) of the July 15 WT? In my experience, having the actual publication on hand (rather than a photocopy or pdf download) tends to be more effective when presenting an argument about any subject... again, this is just an observation from one person... just saying...

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Elder's KM School notes and apostates

by beavis in

this is a message to sir82 or anyone with information on the recent kingdom ministry school, .

i have had several discussions with a friend of mine whose brother went to km school and he said there was information given about those who no longer attend meetings and are baptized "are sort of viewed as apostates".

i was speaking with a family member of mine concerning this issue and two questions arose: 1. are the notes from the recent km school acurate?

Alfred

Since we've been hearing a lot about the mentally-diseased article lately, I thought I'd bump this old thread and ask this question...

Is it still a generally accepted rule of thumb in the borg that "faders" are basically on the same train to Shuns-Ville as apostates and those who have dissasociated themselves?

I've been out for over a year now and just want to know where I might stand since I was recently ignored by an elder after saying hello to him (and my exit was a clean fade... I think)...

thanks!

(will re-start a thread on this subject if need be)

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UK newspaper interest in "mentally diseased", any Witnesses want to come forward?

by cedars in

following the recent activity surrounding the "mentally diseased" apostate article, a major uk newspaper has expressed an interest in covering the story.

the correspondent as been told about this forum, and he is particularly interested in hearing from those inside the organisation, as i think few people are aware of how much unrest there is actually within witness ranks at the teachings of the society.. would anybody like to be used as a source, either anonymously or otherwise?

if so, it might be worthwhile saying a few words on this thread.

Alfred

Thanks Barbara and hello...

MadSweeney... you bring up a valid point... much attention is being given to the "mentaly-diseased" phrase but that articicle had a lot more "hate" phrases in it...

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What was your favorite convention beverage?

by i_drank_the_wine in

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there's so many good choices, i can barely pick!.

dart?.

shasta cola?.

Alfred

don't remember... but, as a kid, I looked forward to assemblies just to have some vanilla pudding and apple danishes...

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Question about 607/587

by drewcoul in

i am not an expert on this issue.

i have read and re-read information about it, but i guess i am somewhat dense when it comes to this topic.. my question is simple: the watchtower suggests that they believe the bible is the unerring word or god.

that it must be believed above anything else.

Alfred

Sorry Drew... (didn't mean to insult anyone's intelligence... iwas just my humble 2 cents)

But to answer your question... no it doesn't... the Bible is clear... 70 years or servitude means 70 years of servitude...

one question the WT won't answer is... If there was 70 years of servitude, which Babilonian king were the Jews serving between 539 BCE and 537 BCE? I've sent letters to Brooklyn several times asking this very basic question and have only received one response which compltetely dodged the question...

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Higher Education and Disqualification for Privileges in the Congregation

by 00DAD in

when i was still serving as an elder in the late summer of 2006 in a congregation of jws in socal we received a letter from the "christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses" (read: the governing body) directing that anyone pursuing a higher education would be disqualified from privileges of service: elder, servant, pioneer, etc.

i remember this quite distinctly because i had just received by ba in education in june a few months before this.

in 2002, i had decided to pursue a degree under the society's then current "it's a personal decision" policy and was quite shocked at their drastic policy change.

Alfred

One of the reasons I started searching the net for answers (to my many questions) was that an elder in my congo (who i confided in) was extremely busy getting his doctorate's degree to help me with my "doubts"... so you could say his higher education helped me escape the cult... he still gets talks in assemblies because he takes the CO to dinner at fine restaurants and hands him a thick envelope at the end of each visit...