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Posts by Alfred
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54Brother Hero wants to watch Faith in Action with me this Saturday
by garyneal inthe question i have is, should i even bother?
i am not even sure why he wants to watch this particular video.
ive already seen it with my wife a few days ago and already seen how they leave a lot of details out concerning their teachings of old.
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"How Awful This Place Can Be!" Life at Bethel by Keith Casarona
by Dogpatch inremember the video of all the nice dudes who were on the governing body in the 70s?
(here's a refresher).. well this is what their lives were really like - the same as when i was there.
by the time it got to the end, all was left was chicken backs.
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What happens when Bethelites are too old, infirm, or disturbed to work?
by True North inin barbara grizzuti harrison's book visions of glory: a history and a memory of jehovah?s witnesses (which is online at http://www.exjws.net/vg.htm -- i highly recommend it) there's an account of heartlessness at bethel that i found particularly troubling.
it's in "chapter iv.
accumulating wealth while the world refuses to die" (http://www.exjws.net/vg4.htm) and is as follows:.
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Alfred
The Society wants nothing to do with older bethelites or aging career pioneers after they've outlived their usefulness... They're perfectly content kicking them to the curb or letting some generous brother or the government deal with them...
Sorry, that's not entirely accurate... they do care about the ones who might possibly have some property or cash stashed away...
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I too have been charged with apostasy! Stunned.
by FinchAndWeston inmy wife and i got a letter sent to me stating we are being called before a judical hearing to discuss allegations of apostasy!
we haven't gone to the meeting in 5 years.
are the jw's on a witchhunt lately?
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Alfred
Jim... that's what we plan to say if it ever comes up... I don't think we'll be asked because they know these went up in May...
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Alfred
At the current rate that they're increasing, there will be roughly 22,800 annointed remaining by the year 2025.
The WT will probably slip in a "Questions From Readers" explaining that the 144,000 started being counted in 1914. The R&F for the most part will see this as NuLite and only a few remaining "thinkers" will catch this and fade...
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CO tells us the reason for the Tract Work
by stillajwexelder inok so this was told to the entire congregation by the circuit overseer.
"the society knows the tract work brings hardly any new disciples in.
we get a few good experiences out of it and a few start studies and attend a few meetings.
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Alfred
So this CO is basically saying that handing out literature in Field Circus is an excercise in futility but serves to boost morale in the R&F?
This is yet another typical example of JW oxymorons (meaning this CO is an Ox and a Moron)
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CO Visits... Are elders honest about the TRUE state of the congregation?
by Alfred inthis question is really for elders or ex-elders (or ministerial servants in the know).... did you find that some elders would tend to "white-wash" the true state of the congregation when they had their sit-down with the co every 6 months?.
did some elders feel pressure to hide certain things from a co for fear of being "removed" from the boe?.
(judging by the "fakeness" that some elders displayed during co visits, i have to wonder whether they were really worried about being removed for not seeking out inactives or encouraging more participation during the wt study, book study or fs...).
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Alfred
Anonymous... Diest is right... Also, I'm hoping Diest and I misread what you wrote... what you've brought to light here only serves to give the WT more credibility (whenever they trash so-called "apostates")... what gives?
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I too have been charged with apostasy! Stunned.
by FinchAndWeston inmy wife and i got a letter sent to me stating we are being called before a judical hearing to discuss allegations of apostasy!
we haven't gone to the meeting in 5 years.
are the jw's on a witchhunt lately?
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Alfred
I put up Christmas lights in my backyard (visible from the front of the house) in May of last year... they've been on every night ever since... my wife likes it and that's all that matters to me.
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Watchtower re "The New World Order"
by Nambo innow the watchtower is so named for they keep on the watch right?.
for those of you still in, or that still see the mags, have they ever once even mentioned the "new world order", or one world government or even globalisation?.
ive been on a forum or two where the average joe, who doesnt even belive in, or are not even aware of god, the bible and revelation, are fully aware of the push towards globalisation and a single world government, where you wont be able to buy or sell unless you accept thier chip, of the f.e.m.a.
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Alfred
I know some old-timer JWs in Spanish congos that still use the phrase "Nuevo Orden Mundial" (New World Order)... they can't seem to get this old phrase out of their system for some reason... but they probably have no idea that this has roots in Freemasonry...
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CO Visits... Are elders honest about the TRUE state of the congregation?
by Alfred inthis question is really for elders or ex-elders (or ministerial servants in the know).... did you find that some elders would tend to "white-wash" the true state of the congregation when they had their sit-down with the co every 6 months?.
did some elders feel pressure to hide certain things from a co for fear of being "removed" from the boe?.
(judging by the "fakeness" that some elders displayed during co visits, i have to wonder whether they were really worried about being removed for not seeking out inactives or encouraging more participation during the wt study, book study or fs...).
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Alfred
So far, that's eight (8) NO's and one (1) YES... very telling...