Also... I caught the subliminal WT message about wives NOT QUESTIONING THE AUTHORITY OF THEIR HUSBANDS...
This is completely omitted in the Spanish version... it is present in the Italian version though... very telling...
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35Tomorrow's Watchtower Study: Steve hits Selma in North America... not South America
by Alfred ini started a thread a few days ago that probably went unnoticed for the most part (under "scandals & cover-ups") regarding steve hitting selma in tomorrow's wt study... i just wanted to recap it here for those who may have missed it.... the spanish version changes the story completely.... if you've read that paragraph 12 it basically says that steve hit selma as she tried to prove a point.
selma then feels sorry for herself.. in the spanish version steve merely gets furious with her and she gets sad.. by the way, i just looked up the italian version... .
selma ricorda una lezione che imparo dalla sorella che le conduceva lo studio.
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Tomorrow's Watchtower Study: Steve hits Selma in North America... not South America
by Alfred ini started a thread a few days ago that probably went unnoticed for the most part (under "scandals & cover-ups") regarding steve hitting selma in tomorrow's wt study... i just wanted to recap it here for those who may have missed it.... the spanish version changes the story completely.... if you've read that paragraph 12 it basically says that steve hit selma as she tried to prove a point.
selma then feels sorry for herself.. in the spanish version steve merely gets furious with her and she gets sad.. by the way, i just looked up the italian version... .
selma ricorda una lezione che imparo dalla sorella che le conduceva lo studio.
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Alfred
I started a thread a few days ago that probably went unnoticed for the most part (under "Scandals & Cover-Ups") regarding Steve hitting Selma in tomorrow's WT Study... I just wanted to recap it here for those who may have missed it...
The Spanish Version changes the story completely...
If you've read that paragraph 12 it basically says that Steve hit Selma as she tried to prove a point. Selma then feels sorry for herself.
In the Spanish version Steve merely gets furious with her and she gets sad.
By the way, I just looked up the Italian version...
Selma ricorda una lezione che imparo dalla sorella che le conduceva lo studio. “Un giorno”, dice, “non volevo fare lo studio. Le será prima Steve mi aveva messo la mani addosso perche avevo cercato di dimostrargli che avevo ragione su una certa questione.
Translation: Selma recalls a lesson that she learned from the sister who led her study. “One day”, she said, “I didn’t want to do the study. The night before, Steve had put his hands upon me because I tried to show him that I was right about a certain issue.”
(But this is God's spirit-directed organization so this is OK...)
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Yearbook 2011 bags this Site!!! Internet full of lies....but Faithful slave writters use UNIVERSITY libraries with 5 million books???
by Witness 007 inyearbook 2011 p.9,10 "the spiritual food like physical food needs to be well prepared....the writting department follows the pattern of "tracing all things with accuracy.
} while the internet is a quick source of information, our researchers don't rely on blogs or poorly documented web entries {you guys} written by unidentified or unqualified persons.
{or everyone on this site!!
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Alfred
I did some math... unless they're referring to books in pdf format, that university library with 5,000,000 books would have to contain well over 92 miles of book shelfs... that's just not possible... their BS knows no boundaries!
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"Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12
by Alfred inthey changed the story in the spanish version !!!.
in the spanish version, steve does not hit selma... he merely gets "furious" with her.... 12 a ella se le quedo grabada una leccion que le enseno la testigo que le daba clases biblicas: fue un dia que no tenia ganas de estudiar.
la noche anterior habia estado discutiendo con steve y el se habia puesto furioso conmigo, asi que estaba triste y me sentia muy mal.
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Alfred
OTWO said: I am still glad the English printed version is the one to be studied in America.
Actually the Spanish Version will be the most widespread Watchtower being studied on Sunday in America (North, Central and South America)... English comes in at a close 2nd, Portugese 3rd.
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"Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12
by Alfred inthey changed the story in the spanish version !!!.
in the spanish version, steve does not hit selma... he merely gets "furious" with her.... 12 a ella se le quedo grabada una leccion que le enseno la testigo que le daba clases biblicas: fue un dia que no tenia ganas de estudiar.
la noche anterior habia estado discutiendo con steve y el se habia puesto furioso conmigo, asi que estaba triste y me sentia muy mal.
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Alfred
ALSO... IN THE SPANISH VERSION, SHE DOESN'T FEEL SORRY FOR HERSELF... SHE MERELY FEELS SAD... THE TRANSLATOR IS APPARENTLY A LAWYER AS WELL...
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"Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12
by Alfred inthey changed the story in the spanish version !!!.
in the spanish version, steve does not hit selma... he merely gets "furious" with her.... 12 a ella se le quedo grabada una leccion que le enseno la testigo que le daba clases biblicas: fue un dia que no tenia ganas de estudiar.
la noche anterior habia estado discutiendo con steve y el se habia puesto furioso conmigo, asi que estaba triste y me sentia muy mal.
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"Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12
by yourmomma inhave anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?
its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .
if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?
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Alfred
THEY CHANGED THE STORY IN THE SPANISH VERSION... STEVE DOES NOT HIT SELMA... HE MERELY GETS "FURIOUS" WITH HER... SEE MY POST UNDER "SCANDALS & COVER-UPS"
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"Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12
by Alfred inthey changed the story in the spanish version !!!.
in the spanish version, steve does not hit selma... he merely gets "furious" with her.... 12 a ella se le quedo grabada una leccion que le enseno la testigo que le daba clases biblicas: fue un dia que no tenia ganas de estudiar.
la noche anterior habia estado discutiendo con steve y el se habia puesto furioso conmigo, asi que estaba triste y me sentia muy mal.
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Alfred
THEY CHANGED THE STORY IN THE SPANISH VERSION !!!
IN THE SPANISH VERSION, STEVE DOES NOT HIT SELMA... HE MERELY GETS "FURIOUS" WITH HER...
12 A ella se le quedó grabada una lección que le enseño la Testigo que le daba clases bíblicas: “Fue un día que no tenía ganas de estudiar. La noche anterior había estado discutiendo con Steve y él se había puesto furioso conmigo, así que estaba triste y me sentía muy mal. Le conté todo a la hermana, y ella me pidió que leyera 1 Corintios 13:4-7. Recuerdo que dije: ‘Steve jamás me trata con tanto cariño como dice aquí’. Ella me corrigió preguntándome: ‘Y tú, ¿le muestras amor de alguna de estas maneras?’. Yo conteste que no, que se me hacía muy difícil debido a su mal genio. Con mucha suavidad, ella me respondió: ‘Selma, ¿quién está aprendiendo a ser cristiano? ¿Steve, o tú?’. Comprendí que debía cambiar de actitud. Le pedí a Jehová que me ayudara a tratar con más amor a mi esposo. Poco a poco, las cosas fueron cambiando”. Diecisiete años después, Steve aceptola verdad.
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"Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12
by yourmomma inhave anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?
its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .
if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?
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Alfred
EXCELLENT CEDARS... thanks for the reminder about the Study being this SUNDAY!!!
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What happens when Bethelites are too old, infirm, or disturbed to work?
by True North inin barbara grizzuti harrison's book visions of glory: a history and a memory of jehovah?s witnesses (which is online at http://www.exjws.net/vg.htm -- i highly recommend it) there's an account of heartlessness at bethel that i found particularly troubling.
it's in "chapter iv.
accumulating wealth while the world refuses to die" (http://www.exjws.net/vg4.htm) and is as follows:.
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Alfred
Designs... I know a CO (from the 1980 fallout) who had his boxes neatly lined up along the curb... they weren't very many boxes so the bethelite who did this couldn't really count any time...