Posts by Giordano

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The mormon church(The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints)

by asp59 in

anyone here thats a former mormon?

a person in the internet wrote abouth them.

that community could not be more impressive in its cohesion, sincerity, benevolence, decency, patriotism, and faith.. i seen mormons go from house to house before the convid virus.they always seem cheerful.

Giordano

So there are two Mormons walking down a sidewalk and two JW Elders walking up the sidewalk.

They face one another and the two JW elders say 'we don't move out of the way for non believers.....

We do!....... say the Mormons and then step around the Elders.

Both religions are extreme and uninformed. Though you can have a more 'normal life' as a Mormon re education wise....... otherwise their really is nothing to like or respect within their Joseph Smith made up fantesy.

On the other hand being a JW is totally pathetic. Unless you can embrace stupid. A JW knows nothing and doesn't want or need...... to learn anything.

The Mormons........ due to their education are far more educated then the JW's.

Having learned the JW beliefs as a young person........ I am still embarrassed. If I was a Mormon I would be equality embarrassed. Being a dumb ass seldom works out.

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Pioneering for real

by Giordano in

i promised mom i'd pioneer for a year after graduating hs.. but!

i didn't say where.. i chose a small store front kingdom hall in kane pa, one of the coldest places in nw pennsylvania.

they were impressed with their frosty weather.

Giordano

I stopped pioneering after three years. My wife and I were settled in and we enjoyed the streams and rivers. This was a good recreation area. Great fishing, winter sports , ice skating 20 degrees below.

However Trout fishing was my passion. Being on the stream was more then just being outdoors........ it was spiritual.

So one summer day I was trout fishing on the Kinsua stream/river. I had worked my way upstream and noticed that a car had stopped on the old bridge. There was little to no traffic.

While I was casting up stream I brushed what I thought was a bee cause I could hear the buzzing going past my ear. Then a Bang? What the...?

My body understood before I did it was the first time I ever experienced a dangerous life threatening situation......someone had shot at me.....or so I thought. And the next thing I knew.......... was me laying in the mud of the stream. The gun fire tapered off after a while and I noticed that there was something floating down stream....... something silvery.

It was beer cans. Someone had not realized I was down stream and the ricochets had sent their shots in my direction. The beer cans were un harmed and went on their way safely. I remained hunkering down until A car started up and went on it's merry way.

I watched it disappear down the road too far way to see the license plate. When I finally stood up and made my way off of the stream. I realized I learned two things that day Jehovah didn't give a damn and bullets can easily ricochet off water...... ( compare stone skipping).

I think that encounter in it's way forced me to drop the notion that a JW pioneer had a real investment in the JW's. I might have come to a different lesson if a voice told me to take cover.......you dumb sum of a bitch!

But It was over for me.

I went home and told my wife what happened and being a JW was over for me. Her response was "I never believed in it so leaving is not a problem."

Who knew?

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Pioneering for real

by Giordano in

i promised mom i'd pioneer for a year after graduating hs.. but!

i didn't say where.. i chose a small store front kingdom hall in kane pa, one of the coldest places in nw pennsylvania.

they were impressed with their frosty weather.

Giordano

The Way it was:

I promised Mom I'd pioneer for a year after graduating HS.

BUT! I didn't say where.

I chose a small store front Kingdom Hall in Kane Pa, One of the coldest places in NW Pennsylvania. They were impressed with their frosty weather. I wasn't.... not going door to door.

So I contracted with a land owner to rent me a cabin. Which was $15 dollars per month. Including all Utilizes except heat. Which I chopped.

But there was another problem....... no toilet./.... I had assumed there was a toilet when I opened the door. But didn't glance in back of the door. No Toilet.

So I was stuck with the snow covered out house. The problem was that there were bullet holes in the door. There is nothing more unsettling then sitting in an outhouse with head high bullet holes in the door.

I reasoned my way to decide for a hot coffee and some breakfast food at a local restaurant with no bullet holes in their rest room door.

Worth the expense .

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Jesus Believed In Adam and Eve

by Parker in

i'm new to the forum.

i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.

i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.

Giordano

RubaDub... tuck it back in .......you don 't have to salute your little general every time he or she shows up.

Eve's bush is not in flames........ she's doing fine. Kinda well past Adam. How about the Flood........ I'd bet Eve got out of that bullshit.....took the kids and high tailed it.

The God of of the old Testament was one of the dumbest Gods ever.

This is a key embarrassment about the Christian god. He's an idiot!

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Using gods name

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

i've never thought about it before, but isn't it some sort of blasphemy and extremism to use a god's name in the official name of your religion?.

g..

Giordano

Let's keep it simple. Jehovah was not God's name it is a made up name that was first published by a Catholic Monk in I think the 12th century maybe the 13th. The WTBTS acknowledges this.

If Jesus was down with Father or Lord....... leave it be. Good enough for Jesus....... good enough for me.

I think that there is a case to be made for not calling God by a man made name.

There is also a level of disrespect at play. If I am walking down a street in my small city where everyone just about knows everyone else and I hear "Hey Gio! Giordano !" I am going to respond...however if some one calls me John or Jolly Rodger then I know they don't mean me. So I don't interact.

Now let's move this to a different place. Heaven is God's home. Did you ever think how pissed off God would be if your praying to a God with a made up name like...Jehovah? Is that one of the reasons God doesn't interact?

Now you've got the reason prayers are not answered. There's no one home and there's no answering service.

A final thought...... Christians were supposed to be Witnesses For Jesus.......... says so some 20 times plus in the New Testament...witness of Jehovah is mentioned once in the Old Testament .

The Society really screwed up when they named their shinny new religion...... Jehovah's Witnesses. To this day people are confused by that name. We explained out in service that Jehovah is the name of our God...before the door is slammed in our face.

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Jesus Believed In Adam and Eve

by Parker in

i'm new to the forum.

i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.

i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.

Giordano

GodBeliever here is a site that is made up of Ex JW's or at least started by them and has morphed into an on line belief forum with beliefs that they feel need to be articulated. Since your in the articulated beliefs business I am sure you will find a hearty welcome.

https://beroeans.study/what-we-believe/

I think they are well meaning and do have bible based beliefs.

Unfortunately 'true believers' tend to have a very low IQ.

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Another Unnecessary Early Death

by Slidin Fast in

a young man in somerset in england, under massive pressure from financial and relationship issues lapsed into mental illness.

he was unlucky enough to have as his support system the local congregation of jehovah's witnesses.

one of the symptoms of his illness was the use of tobacco.

Giordano

The WTBTS is totally ignorant about mental stability and/or mental health. They run away from it. It's all about praying and attending meetings.

How can religious beliefs make clear what mental health issues are dangerous when there is no ability to separate a sin from a crime?

Believe and have faith. Wrong every time!!!

They land on the side of sin........ not mental issues. A JW committee is as useful as the Catholic Church........or as useful as one different left or right shoe. Clump clump.

Stupid is the word for all religious issues regarding sexual practices or sexual crimes.

Sins are the same as Crimes......usually. The Elders don't seem to get that.

It's a sin/crime to sexually abuse children once ... or over and over again. That's pretty simple isn't it? We used to shoot people for that....... oh for the good old times.

But of course the abusers are also mentally deficient.

Because of the lack of higher education the Society, the Catholic Church..... and many others like the Boy Scout's.... were at a loss when it came to the mental health of their Priests, Elders, Coach's, older brothers............ official's of all sorts..... who engaged in child sexual abuse.

Pray....is the proper response for most religious people.

But guess what....it will not absolve anything.......nor make anything right. The children have grown up and are getting their revenge!

And that's the way it should be.

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Jesus Believed In Adam and Eve

by Parker in

i'm new to the forum.

i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.

i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.

Giordano

Hi Parker! And welcome.

Many were born-ins to this religion or in our case my wife and I....... were exposed to the JW world view by one or two of our parents....usually our mother's........ after they converted.

To be honest........ our families were totally ignorant about what their new religion was about.

Never having to die was it's big selling point. So living in a 'Paradise Earth' was reassuring. Except paradise earth was never mentioned in the Bible.

What they actually joined was a corporation before it became a religion. One that could and still can......... change it's beliefs and rules.

Jesus was brought up in the Hebrew religion and tradition. So there is no doubt that he would have believed in Jewish history like Adam and Eve, the great Flood. ...etc.

The biggest problem with Jesus was that he never wrote anything down. We know him only by hearsay. Even Paul could not fill a postcard on both sides with quotes from Jesus.

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My letter of disassociation, what do you think?

by James Jack in

dear brothers, july 27, 2020. in 1919, the president of the watchtower society made a bold prediction, “millions now living will never die”.

that quotation was constantly repeated by the organization till the year 2000 when they realized that everyone in attendance at that assembly, who listened to j.r. rutherford repeat those words, are dead.. that teaching has guided my life.

statements were repeatedly made at assemblies, conventions and in print that there was no career in “this system of things” so you don’t need a job with benefits or retirement, your fulltime job is to “preach the good news”!

Giordano

Since you intend to run as a candidate I would think the local Elders would be on the phone to the CO who would then be in contact with the Society.

There are certain situations that the Society will not touch with a ten foot poll.

It is your right to run for office. The voting pubic might get really upset with the JW's who feel they must shun you.

I also think you might want to talk to an attorney for a potential slander issue. The Elders may be told to be cool about your situation but the congregation may gossip and slander you.

You have reached a point where you want to exercise your right to be free of this religion. Holding political office may have built in protections.

Something to think about.

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When did WT lose the spirit?

by Smiles in

at what time would you say that the watch tower schema lost the spirit?.

like the ancient nation of israel which struggled maintaining divine blessing due to a long series of grave errors that eventually culminated in definitive loss... how and when did watch tower lose the spirit?.

can we pinpoint a time or event?.

Giordano

I agree with Vidiot the moment they decided to become a religion (Tax advantage anybody?) they lost their message and advantage. It once was a bible think group under Russell and then it became a corporation with a religion......... under Rutherford.

Knorr and Franz went along with these changes because it suited their life style....... Hell they dreamed up what the JW's were to think and how the printing corporation was to be productive. Their bull shit was all about meeting goals and a slippery number of beliefs that many were corralled into.

Like the Christian Scientist Movement and the Scientologist's they tapped out. People walk by their places of worship and hold their nose. Who's next...probably the Mormons.

It's a bitch creating a religion.