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  Letter to Governing Body .Recorded conversations with Elders

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found this on youtube...very good example of twisted reasoning by elders.. .

  recorded conversations with elders by a former pioneer....a series.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw8amuphqis.

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  Don't forget to watch his second meeting with the elders, part two of that is up now but there is more to come.
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  Anybody have experience selling on Ebay or Amazon?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are a few collectibles i am wanting to sell.

  my concern is that if i accept payment w/ credit card, etc, that i ship the item and they either open it (destroying the value), or just lie about not getting it, or any other thing to cause ebay/amazon to chargeback.

  i was wondering if anybody sells on them is there a protection for sellers and how often does that type of thing happen?

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  Great advise Barrold. They won't even close my unwanted paypal account.
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  When a JW relative came to visit . . . .

  by skeeter1 in

  1. social
  2. family

  for those of you who are shunned, it is in disguise a blessing.

  becuase when you are not shunned, jws come to visit.

  it is the most tiresome hosting you will ever endure.. for the first 2 1/2 days, it was straight talk about "jehovah", the "organization", the "bible", then, "how bad these times are", "can't wait to see someone dead in the new world" .

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  Glad that's off your chest Skeeter. I feel sorry for those JWs, it sounds like they don't even give themselves a chance to relax, no wonder so many of them have mental problems.
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  Letter to Governing Body .Recorded conversations with Elders

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found this on youtube...very good example of twisted reasoning by elders.. .

  recorded conversations with elders by a former pioneer....a series.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw8amuphqis.

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  Thanks for the link.
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  Not All Anointed Ones Alive Today Are Part Of 'This generation'

  by OwnAccord in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  where do they come up with this stuff?.

  this is a topic on 'the other site'.

  i actually called our bethel ny branch and talked to a brother on the writing committee, at writing correspondence.

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  Thanks for posting ownaccord, many of us here can't join jwtalk.

  I can't help but laught every time I hear the interpretation.
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  News article: Watchtower buys former motel

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20140322/biz/403220306 watchtower buys former motelgroup may also purchase site in tuxedo the former hampton inn on route 300 will provide housing for volunteers working on the watchtowers new headquarters being built in goshen.steve borland/times herald-record.

  by james walshtimes herald-recordpublished: 2:00 am - 03/22/14town of newburgh the watchtower tract and bible society closed friday on the purchase of the hampton inn on route 300.. watchtower spokesman richard devine said the building will be used to provide housing for short-term volunteers working on the organization's world headquarters, which is under construction in warwick.. the sale price wasn't disclosed.. another property, sterling forest apartments in a rural area of the town of tuxedo, may also be purchased by watchtower.

  that would provide housing for long-term volunteer construction workers at the headquarters.. "we talked to the owner there," devine said of the apartments, "but we're still investigating that.

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  When you've got free labour to re-do a Motel to it's original state, it is very easy to make money.
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  There are some questions I have had about the JWs view "post-Armaggeddon"

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have always wondered how jws believe about "post-armaggeddon" earth.

  question#1 how will jws survivors bury all of the dead bodies.

  with about 4 billion people on earth today how can 8 million jw(1/2 of them children and babies) bury all of those dead bodies?

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  Listener

  Another of their ideas is that people will be resurrected gradually, not all at once. I think they believe the more faithful ones will be resurrected amongst the first. This means that the wicked ones will have less time to learn about God.

  They come to these speculative conclusions on their own without thinking that God will do things the way he has planned and it is always unnerving to see them think they know what God has planned.

  Who even really knows if there will be an earthly resurrection or not. This is just another trick we see from this religion and others, they pretend to know in order for people to follow them thinking they have all the answers.
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  WTS governing body changes - how have all those claiming to be anointed been exposed as liars?

  by tootired2care in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in juan viejo2s recent thread about district overseer and other changes coming this bit was quite intriguing to me.. the governing body will be expanded to 12 to better match the biblical magic number of apostles, tribes of israel, etc.

  that will also reset the 'magic number' to 8 needed to get a majority vote to make a doctrinal change.... one of my friends suggests that "annointed" will become synomous with "appointed.

  " if a brother is "appointed" to the governing body, then the logic is that he has automatically been "annointed" by holy spirit and would therefore be considered to be part of the 144k.. .

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  Notsosure, it has been speculated here a number of times that the reason why there are only eight, now seven, GB members is because they are having great difficulty in finding suitable candidates from their pool of so called anointed brothers. The current GB need to find a way to appoint men who do not claim to be anointed and this (Juan's comments) may be a way of solving that problem.

  If they claim that they do the annointing or that their mere appointment means they automatically become anointed then there will be thousands of brothers that they can select from.
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  The End of Circuit Overseers

  by wisdomfrombelow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am sure that the term "circuit overseer" will be gone soon.

  they seem to be changing vocabulary and the presiding overseer is now the "coordinator of the body of elders" and all "district overseers" will be gone in a few months.

  they used to be called "circuit servants" but they will never re-hash an old term so they will make a new term.

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  Whatever it is I bet they will have spent hours and hours talking about it. That's what they do in a men's club.
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  Jesus is his earthly name, Michael is his heavenly name

  by bruh2012 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i know this topic has been discussed before on this forum, but as it goes in jw world we need reminders.. co said in his last talk i can't remember the title in speaking about jesus, that when jesus returned to heaven he resumed his name michael.

  jesus was his earthly name.. through the entire rest of the bible after his ressurection not one reference is made about this.

  case in point----when jesus oh wait michael pulled saul over and talked to him, he introduced his self as jesus.

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  Listener

  It would be a shocker if the society came out with new light and stated that JWs should now start to refer to Jesus as Michael. Once again it would set them apart from other religions and place Jesus on a different level.