The pets issue was a MAJOR deal-breaker for me. The elders even told me to "get rid" of my dogs so I could spend more time in the ministry (even though I was putting in about 26 hrs/month and working 55 hrs week and taking care of my house and handling at least 2 meeting parts a week and doing the accounts and being available for last minute public talks); I told them to "get rid" of their unbelieving grown children and grandchildren first. I told them that their children have "turned their backs on Jehovah yet you prefer to spend time with them and their children rather than pioneer. Explain to me how Jehovah must feel about that; then we can talk about my dogs who did not need a ransomer."
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Watchtower and Pets a Picture
by Marvin Shilmer inwatchtower and pets a picture.
watchtower and pets, an illustration that caused lots of heartache: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2011/07/watchtower-pets.html.
marvin shilmer.
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Do they read the paragraph before or after asking the questions?
by james_woods ini used to be the wt study conductor back in the 1970s.
the way i remember it, we asked the question first, got several comments, and then read the paragraph.
if we were running long on the hour time, i would sometimes just read the last few paragraphs.. something i read here made me think that this had been reveresed - i.e.
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snakeface
The whole time I was in, we'd read the paragraphs, then ask the questions. However on the casettes tapes of the Wt (in the 1990's) the reader would first read the question but not expect an answer (so that the listener would know what to be looking for in the paragraph), then he'd read the paragraph, then he'd ask the question afterward and allow for an answer.
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I wish JW's would stay home when they are sick!
by life is to short inas some of you know my husband got pneumonia on the way down to lake tahoe and wound up in the hospital.
we have not been around anyone that was sick nor did he seem to have a cold he just got pneumonia.
i had, had surgery for hernias amost three weeks ago but i doubt that gave him exposure to pneumonia.. well out of the blue while i was in tahoe a older sister called me and told me one of the elders had bronchitis really bad.
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snakeface
Many just do not want to miss meetings no matter what. I've known of some who have been at the hall with strep throat - and they use the microphones to make comments, coughing into the mikes! The eldrs have even given "special needs" talks telling them to stay home when they're sick so they don't spread germs, but their reasoning is "Well you're gonna catch germs no matter where you go...work, the grocery store...". It's actually an ego thing; they think their comments are so profound that the organization cannot go on without them.
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snakeface
If a loved one has a medical emergency and you call 911, would you let these strangers into your home to transport your loved one to a hospital?
When you board a plane, would you let a pilot you have never met fly you to your destination?
If you go to Walmart and buy underwear, would you let a cashier whom you've never met ring up the sale?
We could go on and on...
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When did baptism turn into a wet T shirt contest?
by highdose inat what point did they require people to don a white t shirt?
because lets face it as everyone knows... white t shirts become see-through when wet..... so if they are going for the argument that it protects modesty then thats rubbish, why not insist on a black t shirt that would really do the job?.
instead people get baptised and as soon as they come up from the water whatever they were wearing underneath is there for all to see.. .
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snakeface
The baptismal candidate has to put the white T shirt on over their swimsuit or whatever else they wear. So for example a woman can wear a bikini, and a long dark-colored T shirt over that, and a white T shirt over that.
Back when I got baptized there was no such rule. Many young ladies wore bikinis. Most men wore swimsuitS and no shirts at all. I and many other in-shape young guys wore squarecut swimsuits. Of course we all looked attractive...but I would imagine the men who actually immerse the candidates feel uncomfortable holding each person and feeling all that bare skin.
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A very long time elder post this on his facebook page, he is not one of my fb friends
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snakeface
Do a screenprint and mail it to the Kingdom Hall, "Attenion: Body of Elders" with no return address.
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Those sweltering assemblies!
by highdose inanyone from the uk remember the assemblies at twickenham?
cytrstal place?
gillingham?.
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snakeface
Here in Florida the temperature can be 99 F (= 37 C ). The facility is airconditioned. But just from walking to the car to the facility - many carrying babies or pushing wheelchairs - you end up soaking wet. Then at the end of the day you get into the HOT car and wait in line 30 minutes just to get out of the parking lot. I always felt sorry for the parking lot attendants.
I often wondered why the A-holes in Brooklyn had to schedule the conventions at that time of the year, late summer. There was certainly no Bible-based reason for it. True, the children are out of school. But they are also out of school at Christmastime (when all their "worldly" classmates are having parties - having a convention would give the JW children something at that time of year) and at Eastertime for spring break.
The weather is better - in both the Southern and in the Northern hemispheres - in the spring and fall.
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"Offer for July" - what should i do???
by Lied2NoMore ini have the service mtg part tonight..."the offer for july" which is the "was life created" brochure which has the flawed .
statement about a large sized spiderweb stopping a jumbo jet mid-flight.
the society has offered a retraction of the .
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Also, you could include a skit about a family, where the teenage son wakes up one morning to discover spiderwebs have grown on his hand. The parents ask him, "Have you relapsed into masturbation again?" They quickly call Brother Elder, who gather a commitee and comes right over to offer Bible-based counsel, which of course the youth accepts. Then next scene shows him with a clean hand, out in service, holding out tracts to householders.......
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"Offer for July" - what should i do???
by Lied2NoMore ini have the service mtg part tonight..."the offer for july" which is the "was life created" brochure which has the flawed .
statement about a large sized spiderweb stopping a jumbo jet mid-flight.
the society has offered a retraction of the .
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Do the part, display the brochure, have a demonstration to show how the brochure would be presented to an Airline Transport Pilot (who of course did not know the Bible says a spiderweb can stop his jet; his preacher selfishly withheld that from him) accepts it, gives a modest donation, accepts a free home Bible study - or perhaps an engineer who designs jumbo jets - then say:
At Armageddon Jesus will throw a big spiderweb over Satan and all the governments and churches. (like Spiderman. "Evidently" Spiderman foreshadowed the Greater Spiderman, Jesus, in his post-resurrection heavenly glory, and by extension it refers to the elders.) If a literal spiderweb can stop a 400,000 pound, 300+ seat, Boeing 777 cruising at over 560 mph, think of how abruptly this entire wicked system, piloted by Satan and his crew, will be brought to a halt in mid-air, only to fall, crash and burn, killing everyone on board and everyone on the surface of the ground where the plane crashes - which of course will be outside of the "interior rooms".
Then talk about the prophecy of Little Miss Muffet, how she was too busy sitting on her tuffet eating her curds and whey when she should have been out in field service, and notice what happened to her: "along came a spider who sat down beside her and frightened Miss Muffet away." Yes, away, far far away, right out of the truth and right smack dab into Satan's wicked world! Now she won't get to live forever in paradise. She will become as manure on the surface of the ground....but not until after her eyes rot in their very sockets and her tongue cleaves to her palate, and the birds of prey eat up her fleshy parts. Her parents did the best they could. But she wouldn't listen to the elders. Now she is dead.
So, friends, be sure to pick up your supply of these life-saving brochures after the conclusion of tonight's meeting and make definite arrangements to work with someone this Saturday morning. Let us become like those little spiders and crawl about the territory spreading our message that is both irenic and polemic and thus keep ourselves free from bloodguilt while there is still a little bit of time left.
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If I do not go and speak with the elders by Sunday, then he will speak with them on my behalf.
by TimothyT inmy friend called round before and has just left.
he told me that he was worried about me and that he wanted to speak to me as to why i havnt been going to the meetings or on the field service.
i told him that im just not discussing the reasons at all.
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snakeface
I've found the link and decided to post it here because others might benefit from it, gay or not. It's from the site gaychurch.org http://www.gaychurch.org/Gay_and_Christian_YES/gay_and_christian_yes.htm
For example I scrolled down to "Sodom and Gomorrah" and learned quite a bit! This passage is not about "gay sex" but rather male rape. God did not destroy those people because of homosexuality (didn't the citizens have wives and children?) but because of violence. Also, Jesus himself never commented on the subject of homosexuality. Apparently (or can we say "evidently"?) it was not even an issue with him.
Sorry to get away from the original poster's topic, but I feel this is helpful information that can help him and all of us disabuse our minds.