Posts by Kenneson

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Who really is Michael the Archangel?

by theMadJW in

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http://www.themadjws.com/whoismichael.htm.

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let me know what you think- for i will be adding to the info!.

Kenneson

Mad,

Let me help you with your difficulties. Do you believe that Jesus was the archangel in heaven, the chief of the angels? Do you believe that this same archangel came down from heaven to earth? How did this archangel become man, if he did not add unto himself what he did not have before, namely humanity? Or, do you believe he was already a man in heaven? It is this humanity which was a limitation to the one who came down from heaven. Was it necessary for him to eat, drink, sleep, etc. while he was in heaven? He did not have these limitations before, or do you believe he did?

The resurrected Jesus was seen at one time by 500 brothers. 1 Cor. 15:4-8

"To these also by many positive proofs he showed himself alive after he had suffered, BEING SEEN BY THEM THROUGHOUT FORTY DAYS..." Act 1:3

It was the same one whom they SAW lifted up. Apparently Jesus went away SEEN, until the cloud hid him from their sight. Verse 9 Why do you claim that it is a different Jesus who is now in heaven? What continuity is there with the Jesus who was SEEN, with the Jesus who is in heaven?

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Who really is Michael the Archangel?

by theMadJW in

jw
friends

http://www.themadjws.com/whoismichael.htm.

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let me know what you think- for i will be adding to the info!.

Kenneson

Jesus was SEEN by the apostles for 40 days after his resurrection. His body was not dissolved as JW's maintain. It was not an invisible spirit that they saw ascend into heaven. Read Acts 1:1-11

Does that make Jesus a zombie as you claim?

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Who really is Michael the Archangel?

by theMadJW in

jw
friends

http://www.themadjws.com/whoismichael.htm.

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let me know what you think- for i will be adding to the info!.

Kenneson

1 Cor. 15:50 "Flesh and blood" stands for perishable, corrupt, weak, sinful human beings. Paul's final argument about the resurrection of the body is that God's redeemed people must have newly organized, imperishable bodies to live with him.

Jesus' body at his resurrection was glorified. Transformation does not mean cessation. His spiritual body, as ours will be in the twinkling of an eye, although physical, was imperishable, without corruption, and adaptable to live with God forever (Php. 3:21). Our bodies will be similar to Christ's resurrected, glorified physical body (Lk. 24:36-43)

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Who really is Michael the Archangel?

by theMadJW in

jw
friends

http://www.themadjws.com/whoismichael.htm.

.

let me know what you think- for i will be adding to the info!.

Kenneson

Mad,

So, you believe that Michael could become lower than angels in the spirit realm? How could a chief angel become lower than his counterparts? We are certainly lower than angels, but we never were angels, so there is no comparison. We never were in a higher spirit realm. Jesus becomes lower than the angels because he take on humanity, not because he ceases to be what he was before. It is in his humanity that he chooses to limit himself, not in what he was before he came to earth.

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Who really is Michael the Archangel?

by theMadJW in

jw
friends

http://www.themadjws.com/whoismichael.htm.

.

let me know what you think- for i will be adding to the info!.

Kenneson

Mad,

So, you believe that Michael could become lower than angels in the spirit realm? How could a chief angel become lower than his counterparts? We are certainly lower than angels, but we never were angels, so there is no comparison. We never were in a higher spirit realm. Jesus becomes lower than the angels because he take on humanity, not because he ceases to be what he was before. It is in his humanity that he chooses to limit himself, not in what he was before he came to earth.

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Learn to Speak Fluent Churchese!

by theMadJW in

ever wonder why when you refer to "god", it's like speaking a foreign language?.

it is a foreign language, if speaking to a churchoid!.

http://www.themadjws.com/howtospeakchurchese.htm.

Kenneson

Mad,

Quit lying. The Catholic Church never introduced a third God. She has always maintained that there are 3 persons who constitute one God. But, JW's certainly have attempted to introduce a second god, Jesus. The Catholic church doesn't agree with your version.

In Luke 3:21-22 we have the three persons together. The Father is not seen because he is a spirit, but you hear his voice. The Holy Ghost also cannot be seen but manifests Himself as a dove. On another occasion in Acts 2 as tongues of fire. You don't have the one without the others. They act as a unit.

You make much ado about the Holy Ghost not having a name. Matt. 28:19 doesn't seem to be concerned about it at all. It states: "Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost..." Only one name is important and that is the name of Jesus because that is the name people were baptized in. Acts 2:38; Acts 19:5

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Learn to Speak Fluent Churchese!

by theMadJW in

ever wonder why when you refer to "god", it's like speaking a foreign language?.

it is a foreign language, if speaking to a churchoid!.

http://www.themadjws.com/howtospeakchurchese.htm.

Kenneson

Mad,

Quit lying. The Catholic Church never introduced a third God. She has always maintained that there are 3 persons who constitute one God. But, JW's certainly have attempted to introduce a second god, Jesus. The Catholic church doesn't agree with your version.

In Luke 3:21-22 we have the three persons together. The Father is not seen because he is a spirit, but you hear his voice. The Holy Ghost also cannot be seen but manifests Himself as a dove. On another occasion in Acts 2 as tongues of fire. You don't have the one without the others. They act as a unit.

You make much ado about the Holy Ghost not having a name. Matt. 28:19 doesn't seem to be concerned about it at all. It states: "Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost..." Only one name is important and that is the name of Jesus because that is the name people were baptized in. Acts 2:38; Acts 19:5

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Who really is Michael the Archangel?

by theMadJW in

jw
friends

http://www.themadjws.com/whoismichael.htm.

.

let me know what you think- for i will be adding to the info!.

Kenneson

Mad,

Jesus, in his pre-existence, was already leader of the angels at their creation. After all, weren't they made through him and FOR him? They BELONG to him. Col. 1:16 He was already the center of the angelic world. An archangel, who according to you, was the CHIEF of the angels could not have been made lower than the angels (Heb. 2:9) because he is already supposed to be superior to them.

It is the humanity of Jesus that was made lower than the angels, not what he was before. And it is the glorified humanity of Jesus that is NOW SUPERIOR to the angels!

The Jesus that came from heaven to earth added to himself what he did not have before, namely a human nature. When Jesus went back to heaven, ALL of him went back (what was of heaven and what was of humanity).

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The PERFECT Translation...for Churchoids!

by theMadJW in

http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.

Kenneson

Mad,

The definition of insanity. Repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

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The PERFECT Translation...for Churchoids!

by theMadJW in

http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.

Kenneson

Mad,

The definition of insanity. Repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!