It's quite understandable to see why Christians adopted symbols. It doesn't involve only the cross. For example, during times of persecution a fish symbol was used and this in spite of Deut. 4:18. No one would suggest that the early Christians were worshipping the pagan god Dagon! No, they had in mind several things: Jesus multiplied the fish and loaves; many of the first disciples were fishermen and moreover, Jesus told his followers to be fishers of men. This was a symbol that they could recognize each other without raising the suspicion of their persecutors. The holy spirit was represented by a dove or fire because the Bible uses those symbols. The symbols were only reminders, not objects of worship. I would say that one of the main symbols used by Christians today is the Bible. The Book points to the living Word of God, Jesus, but no one should worship a book anymore than a cross or any other object.
Kenneson
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The facts on crucifixion, stauros, and the "torture stake"
by Leolaia infinally, i will look at biblical and patristic evidence bearing on the crucifixion of jesus in particular.
we need to examine the earliest known descriptions of the kind of crucifixion adopted by the romans and the specific terms they used to refer to it.
apparently the society believes that crux still meant "stake" in the second century a.d., when tacitus composed his annals.
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Who really is Michael the Archangel?
by theMadJW inhttp://www.themadjws.com/whoismichael.htm.
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let me know what you think- for i will be adding to the info!.
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Kenneson
Mad,
You sound like one of Judge Rutherfords records--repeating the same thing over and over again and really saying nothing. Bwahahahahahahahahahah!
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Petition against MadJW
by brotherdan ini'd like to submit a motion that we no longer respond to posts posted by madjw.
he's using this forum to spam all of us into going to his wts defending website.
he also claims to be a regular pioneer and gets the majority of his time by posting on this site.
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Kenneson
I think Mad read too many of Judge Rutherford's books. That one had a rabid hate for other religions but his own. While most JWs are trying to get away from that image, Mad, the Rutherfordite, flaunts it.
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Petition against MadJW
by brotherdan ini'd like to submit a motion that we no longer respond to posts posted by madjw.
he's using this forum to spam all of us into going to his wts defending website.
he also claims to be a regular pioneer and gets the majority of his time by posting on this site.
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Kenneson
I think Mad read too many of Judge Rutherford's books. That one had a rabid hate for other religions but his own. While most JWs are trying to get away from that image, Mad, the Rutherfordite, flaunts it.
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Does a JW know how to preach with out slandering other religions?
by Little Imp inone of the first things i noticed when attending a kh is how the person on the platform always resorted to slandering other religions during his talk.
it reminds me so much of a party political broadcast just before an election.
as soon as the candidate starts slandering the opposing party i just switch off.. i am not interested in what everyone else is doing wrong i want to know what they are going to that's right.
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Kenneson
See Luke 8:31
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Does a JW know how to preach with out slandering other religions?
by Little Imp inone of the first things i noticed when attending a kh is how the person on the platform always resorted to slandering other religions during his talk.
it reminds me so much of a party political broadcast just before an election.
as soon as the candidate starts slandering the opposing party i just switch off.. i am not interested in what everyone else is doing wrong i want to know what they are going to that's right.
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Kenneson
Alice,
The WTS may be a bit more subtle nowadays, but they weren't always so. See page 146 of Revelation Its Grand Climax At Hand. Look at one of the MANY cartoons published during Judge Rutherford's regime. JW's are claimed by the WTS to be none other than the "spiritual locusts" that came out of the abyss to plague Christendom. Isn't it strange that this is where Satan ends up during the Millennium before his final destiny in the "lake of fire," the very location where the demons implored Jesus not to be sent?
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# 1 scripture that Jehovah Witnesses avoid, when denying they are false prophets
by wasblind injeremiah 28: 15-17. and jeremiah the prophet went on to say to hananiah the prophet: "listen, please, oh hananiah!
jehovah has not sent you, but you yourself have caused this people to trust in a falsehood.
therefore this is what jehovah has said, ' look!
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Kenneson
Was blind,
If the WTS writes everything from Jehovah, they apparently forget what they have written. Thus, the constant "new light" revisions. LOL
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All the accusations- and no substance....how SHOCKING!
by theMadJW inare there pretenders in our brotherhood- as in all religion- that do what is evil?.
yes.. have we made stupid guesses about some of the prophecies, as all churches do?.
yes.. does our "organization" make mistakes- as, you guessed it, all do?.
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Kenneson
The guy sounds like he was tutored by Judge Rutherford!! He certainly is as mad.
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All the accusations- and no substance....how SHOCKING!
by theMadJW inare there pretenders in our brotherhood- as in all religion- that do what is evil?.
yes.. have we made stupid guesses about some of the prophecies, as all churches do?.
yes.. does our "organization" make mistakes- as, you guessed it, all do?.
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Kenneson
The guy sounds like he was tutored by Judge Rutherford!! He is certainly is as Mad!
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Who really is Michael the Archangel?
by theMadJW inhttp://www.themadjws.com/whoismichael.htm.
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Mad,
Let me help you with your difficulties. Do you believe that Jesus was the archangel in heaven, the chief of the angels? Do you believe that this same archangel came down from heaven to earth? How did this archangel become man, if he did not add unto himself what he did not have before, namely humanity? Or, do you believe he was already a man in heaven? It is this humanity which was a limitation to the one who came down from heaven. Was it necessary for him to eat, drink, sleep, etc. while he was in heaven? He did not have these limitations before, or do you believe he did?
The resurrected Jesus was seen at one time by 500 brothers. 1 Cor. 15:4-8
"To these also by many positive proofs he showed himself alive after he had suffered, BEING SEEN BY THEM THROUGHOUT FORTY DAYS..." Act 1:3
It was the same one whom they SAW lifted up. Apparently Jesus went away SEEN, until the cloud hid him from their sight. Verse 9 Why do you claim that it is a different Jesus who is now in heaven? What continuity is there with the Jesus who was SEEN, with the Jesus who is in heaven?