there's a good chance that a process of change is occurring in nk, which i'll come back to, as first i'd like to briefly explain how korea became divided.. i've spent a lot of time this past calendar year on the history and development of korea, this last semester focussing on modern korea with all its sadness, commencing with the japanese takeover in 1905, and the full annexation and military occupation in 1910. .
many korean's (naturally) opposed the japanese occupation.
some actively fought the japanese as guerilla's in the mountains.
A New Zealand scientist, the first Western Astronomer to do so in 60 years recently visited North Korea:
Is impressions are at:
He's a Professor, so he has a lot to say, but I focus on his words; "the north Koreans are a very smart people, very friendly ... and they want to stop (end) their isolation.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/15346288/former-priest-alleges-system-of-cover-ups-of-abuse/.
abcupdated november 10, 2012, 2:01 am.
a former new south wales priest claims to have witnessed a "system of cover-ups" within the catholic church to hide child sexual abuse.. kevin lee was ordained as a priest 20 years ago and worked as a police chaplain for some of that time, but was relieved of his parish responsibilities in western sydney this year when he admitted to marrying a woman in secret.. his comments follow those of that the catholic church is involved in cover-ups and paedophile priests have destroyed evidence to avoid prosecution.. mr lee told lateline on friday that abuse is widely covered up in the church and that he first became aware of it as soon as he was in the seminary.. "people used to tell me and people in the first parish i was in started to confess their frustration with the authorities and the church for not dealing with the abuse that happened to their sons," he said.. mr lee says during the course of his life as a priest, he became aware that some of those around him were paedophiles.. "i became aware that some of the other priests were actually paedophiles and were not necessarily becoming priests because they wanted to help people, but because they were paedophiles who wanted the opportunity," he said.. mr lee says a church protocol was in place for dealing with cases of child sexual abuse, but it was not actually used.. "i saw a system of cover-ups, a system of blind-eye turning and just ignorance of the fact that it was happening," he said.. he says he took his concerns to superiors within the church but was knocked back.. "in my earlier years as a priest, i was having these people coming to me in confession or just sharing in counselling sessions their experience of frustration and anger with the church that had ignored their pleas of justice when their children had been abused and i started writing the notes down," he said.. "i was speaking to a barrister at one point and i thought he was going to help my case by putting it forward in some legal process.. "he said 'document everything you have', and everything i had i took to authorities within the church and i was told i needed more evidence.".
Here's the story of one boy's experience at a school run by the brothers of the St.John of God order.
www.smh.com.au/national/how-church-betrayed-my-brother.20121112-298h3.html
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/15346288/former-priest-alleges-system-of-cover-ups-of-abuse/.
abcupdated november 10, 2012, 2:01 am.
a former new south wales priest claims to have witnessed a "system of cover-ups" within the catholic church to hide child sexual abuse.. kevin lee was ordained as a priest 20 years ago and worked as a police chaplain for some of that time, but was relieved of his parish responsibilities in western sydney this year when he admitted to marrying a woman in secret.. his comments follow those of that the catholic church is involved in cover-ups and paedophile priests have destroyed evidence to avoid prosecution.. mr lee told lateline on friday that abuse is widely covered up in the church and that he first became aware of it as soon as he was in the seminary.. "people used to tell me and people in the first parish i was in started to confess their frustration with the authorities and the church for not dealing with the abuse that happened to their sons," he said.. mr lee says during the course of his life as a priest, he became aware that some of those around him were paedophiles.. "i became aware that some of the other priests were actually paedophiles and were not necessarily becoming priests because they wanted to help people, but because they were paedophiles who wanted the opportunity," he said.. mr lee says a church protocol was in place for dealing with cases of child sexual abuse, but it was not actually used.. "i saw a system of cover-ups, a system of blind-eye turning and just ignorance of the fact that it was happening," he said.. he says he took his concerns to superiors within the church but was knocked back.. "in my earlier years as a priest, i was having these people coming to me in confession or just sharing in counselling sessions their experience of frustration and anger with the church that had ignored their pleas of justice when their children had been abused and i started writing the notes down," he said.. "i was speaking to a barrister at one point and i thought he was going to help my case by putting it forward in some legal process.. "he said 'document everything you have', and everything i had i took to authorities within the church and i was told i needed more evidence.".
James Woods - it is not altogether clear that the accusations against the Knights Templar were true, or were merely an excuse to harass the order. However, it may well be true, as both the English king Richard (the Lionheart) and the Muslim general Saladin are thought to have practised paedophilia. It could be that it was a common practise in the the Syria-Palestine area.
Karen Leibreich has covered the disbanding of another Catholic order - An order established in 1621 by Fr.Jose de Calasanz, which he named the Piarist Order, with the goal of housing and educating the poor children of Rome.
It was disbanded in 1646 by, the then Pope.
Reference: Leibrieich, K., Fallen Order: A History (2004- London, Atlantic Books)
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/15346288/former-priest-alleges-system-of-cover-ups-of-abuse/.
abcupdated november 10, 2012, 2:01 am.
a former new south wales priest claims to have witnessed a "system of cover-ups" within the catholic church to hide child sexual abuse.. kevin lee was ordained as a priest 20 years ago and worked as a police chaplain for some of that time, but was relieved of his parish responsibilities in western sydney this year when he admitted to marrying a woman in secret.. his comments follow those of that the catholic church is involved in cover-ups and paedophile priests have destroyed evidence to avoid prosecution.. mr lee told lateline on friday that abuse is widely covered up in the church and that he first became aware of it as soon as he was in the seminary.. "people used to tell me and people in the first parish i was in started to confess their frustration with the authorities and the church for not dealing with the abuse that happened to their sons," he said.. mr lee says during the course of his life as a priest, he became aware that some of those around him were paedophiles.. "i became aware that some of the other priests were actually paedophiles and were not necessarily becoming priests because they wanted to help people, but because they were paedophiles who wanted the opportunity," he said.. mr lee says a church protocol was in place for dealing with cases of child sexual abuse, but it was not actually used.. "i saw a system of cover-ups, a system of blind-eye turning and just ignorance of the fact that it was happening," he said.. he says he took his concerns to superiors within the church but was knocked back.. "in my earlier years as a priest, i was having these people coming to me in confession or just sharing in counselling sessions their experience of frustration and anger with the church that had ignored their pleas of justice when their children had been abused and i started writing the notes down," he said.. "i was speaking to a barrister at one point and i thought he was going to help my case by putting it forward in some legal process.. "he said 'document everything you have', and everything i had i took to authorities within the church and i was told i needed more evidence.".
Yes, the position of the psychologist is not clear. Another report says she was engaged to "help" victims. Apparently more than 120 of them.
www.smh.com.au/national/pell-urged-to-close-order-over-abuses-20121111-296h2.html
It seems, Cardinal Pell has been authorising large borrowings by the order to pay out damage claims by more than 200 claimed victims. And the psychologists report of "worst" incidents appears to refer to boys being drugged and then pack-raped by teaching brothers.
hi, this thread is inspired by the "bible characters trading cards" thread.... can we come up with a great list of female bible characters that were strong, decisive and inspiring?.
scully mentioned ja'el: drugging and driving a tent spike through the head (we all remember the awesome bible stories illustration) of the enemy general.. list yours along with a description of why they were so badass!.
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Blondie, I was just going to acknowledge my failure to cite my sources, when Yahweh, knowing how much I delight in truth, inspired brizzzy to post my BAR source. The Janet Gaines' article was a good one. Thnx for posting it Brizzzy.
and, Brizzzy - nice to see another BAR reader. Its a useful journal, isn't it?
I should also have noted Revelation 2:20 which pungently summarises all the Judaism saw wrong about "THAT woman Jezebel."
there's a good chance that a process of change is occurring in nk, which i'll come back to, as first i'd like to briefly explain how korea became divided.. i've spent a lot of time this past calendar year on the history and development of korea, this last semester focussing on modern korea with all its sadness, commencing with the japanese takeover in 1905, and the full annexation and military occupation in 1910. .
many korean's (naturally) opposed the japanese occupation.
some actively fought the japanese as guerilla's in the mountains.
S - I think that South Korea (today) is likely a much more relaxed society. I have not seen any info (yet) on what complaints the Kim-Ko couple may have had with life in South Korea.
Perhaps they are like the Russians (and people of other former Soviet Republics) who are nostalgic for the 'good old days.' when you had free medical care, free education, a supplied apartment and a job for life. Perhaps you did not have much money, or much personal freedom or freedom to travel. But you were free from worries about essentials.
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And, yes you are right about the origins of much of the Japanese population, including (likely) a significant background of the Imperial family lineage. I've noted the news items of the past week, but I feel its anachronistic to call these common ancestors "korean.'
The populations of east Asia were always moving and changing. They were mobile people, moving on horseback, not usually with fixed borders. Its difficult to get a handle on the first peoples in N.E.Asia. perhaps the best mirror are the native peoples of the Americas. Perhaps twice in the last twenty thousand years there were large migrations from (what is now) Siberia, into North America, although I think there may always have been some movement across the Bering Strait, and that mobility is reflected in Japan (maybe 30+% affinity with the Mongols, and in Korea. Its also reflected in China. What we call 'Han,' is a name for many different groups of people that accepted Chinese civilisation. Often the North of China was in the hands of the Steppe people. Xiong nu and others more like the Manchus (who formed the last Imperial dynasty) and the Mongols who conquered China in the thirteenth dynasty and all the way to Adriatic sea.
Earlier in history the Huns from central Asia and thought to be part of the steppe people, contributed to the collapse of the western Roman Empire and became the nobility of both proto-France and proto-Germany.
So to speak of ethnic Chinese, or ethnic Korean or ethnic Japanese does not mean much, except in modern terms.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/15346288/former-priest-alleges-system-of-cover-ups-of-abuse/.
abcupdated november 10, 2012, 2:01 am.
a former new south wales priest claims to have witnessed a "system of cover-ups" within the catholic church to hide child sexual abuse.. kevin lee was ordained as a priest 20 years ago and worked as a police chaplain for some of that time, but was relieved of his parish responsibilities in western sydney this year when he admitted to marrying a woman in secret.. his comments follow those of that the catholic church is involved in cover-ups and paedophile priests have destroyed evidence to avoid prosecution.. mr lee told lateline on friday that abuse is widely covered up in the church and that he first became aware of it as soon as he was in the seminary.. "people used to tell me and people in the first parish i was in started to confess their frustration with the authorities and the church for not dealing with the abuse that happened to their sons," he said.. mr lee says during the course of his life as a priest, he became aware that some of those around him were paedophiles.. "i became aware that some of the other priests were actually paedophiles and were not necessarily becoming priests because they wanted to help people, but because they were paedophiles who wanted the opportunity," he said.. mr lee says a church protocol was in place for dealing with cases of child sexual abuse, but it was not actually used.. "i saw a system of cover-ups, a system of blind-eye turning and just ignorance of the fact that it was happening," he said.. he says he took his concerns to superiors within the church but was knocked back.. "in my earlier years as a priest, i was having these people coming to me in confession or just sharing in counselling sessions their experience of frustration and anger with the church that had ignored their pleas of justice when their children had been abused and i started writing the notes down," he said.. "i was speaking to a barrister at one point and i thought he was going to help my case by putting it forward in some legal process.. "he said 'document everything you have', and everything i had i took to authorities within the church and i was told i needed more evidence.".
A further development in the state of NSW in Australia is a call to close down the entire Catholic order known as the St. John of God Order (not a very large order). A psychologist who was employed by the group for 9 years has gone public to ask Cardinal Pell to close the group as (she claims) 75% of the brothers are offenders and that some had committedthe worst offences that she had ever heard of.
news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2012/11/12/02/01/order-implicated-in-abuse-scandal
hi, this thread is inspired by the "bible characters trading cards" thread.... can we come up with a great list of female bible characters that were strong, decisive and inspiring?.
scully mentioned ja'el: drugging and driving a tent spike through the head (we all remember the awesome bible stories illustration) of the enemy general.. list yours along with a description of why they were so badass!.
.
... and then there is Naomi - who just knew that if she could get Boaz to screw Ruth he'd be hooked. Very interesting text at Ruth ch3.vs8.
Boaz gets a bit pissed (strange how the OT always associates getting pissed with illicit sex - Think Lot's daughters) "and, his heart is feeling good." He finds a place to sleep. Sneaky little Ruthie is watching him and creeps stealthily over to him uncovers his feet and lays down.
Now vs 8 says "and it came about at midnight that the man began to tremble." Tremble seems to a legitimate english word for charad, though to be afraid is also OK.
But why would Boaz be afraid? I think the NWT got it right this time. Why? Well, from personal experience if at night you're having a little personal play with yourself, your sleeping partner is likely to say, "Why's the bed shaking (or, trembling)? See?
So imagine, Boaz wakes up at midnight and he has an erection and does what men do, then that's just what its going to feel like to sneaky little Ruthie, lying at his feet. She moves her body so his feet touch her body, and Boaz sits up, "who the hells there?" he asks. "Only sneaky little Ruthie she says"... and you can read the rest for yourself.
So, isn't Naomi a wonderful example today. When a poor girl, finding herself husbandless among Yahweh's happy people, needs advice on getting a husband, Sister Like-naomi, will tell Sister unmarried just how to get her man.
like me, most of you never celebrated christmas when you were growing up or when you were raising your children.
because of this, i don't place a great importance on celebrating christmas.
i do love the holidays because everyone seems so happy and i like the hustle and bustle of it all.
I'm with you Hortensia, (to be candid) screw xmas.
Its all about overpriced food and crap. Even if I had young kids, I think I'd buy them some good presents, and do my best to protect their delicate little minds from such consumerist religious rubbish.*
This year I'm going to a friends place who has promised to cook a delicious Chinese meal.
(*ps: that's what I did when I was a witness, anyway)
Another PS. I knew a long-term witness family back in the 1950's. New in the truth, (sarcastic grin) this idealistic young kid (that I used to be) wondered to them, how far away was the Big A? "No more than 5 years, for sure, the Dad says to me. Yeah,right! He's long dead, his son (who studied with me) is just about dead, and I guess I've not got that long to go myself. But back to the point FTS. The point being that Mum faithful witness used to buy her kids chrissie presents every year. And guess who was a very frequent visitor to their house - none other than big Ted Jarascz. Isn't there a lesson there for someone????
there's a good chance that a process of change is occurring in nk, which i'll come back to, as first i'd like to briefly explain how korea became divided.. i've spent a lot of time this past calendar year on the history and development of korea, this last semester focussing on modern korea with all its sadness, commencing with the japanese takeover in 1905, and the full annexation and military occupation in 1910. .
many korean's (naturally) opposed the japanese occupation.
some actively fought the japanese as guerilla's in the mountains.
Interesting news.
Yonhap News confirms that two North Korean defectors (in 2008), Kim Kwang-hyok and his wife Ko Jong-nam have returned to North Korea last Sept.12.
They seem to be the third or fourth returnees this year.
english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2012/11/09/0401000000AEN20121109003000315F.HTML
