Of course, Lieu's studies have included much more. Here's his University bio page.
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An intellectual feast - A Conference in honour of Prof Samuel N.C.Lieu on his Retirement-Don't read if you don't like ideas
by fulltimestudent ini've been invited to attend this conference (limited attendance) and consider it an exciting privilege.
maybe for many it would be too boring, as a poster said on one of my threads, (my paraphrase) " who cares about the past?".
but, if i started my adult life as a brainwashed slave to yhwh/jesus (and, don't give me any shit about jw's ignoring jesus), i am finishing it as a (somewhat-grin) enlightened man who just may have some understanding of the development of world thought.
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An intellectual feast - A Conference in honour of Prof Samuel N.C.Lieu on his Retirement-Don't read if you don't like ideas
by fulltimestudent ini've been invited to attend this conference (limited attendance) and consider it an exciting privilege.
maybe for many it would be too boring, as a poster said on one of my threads, (my paraphrase) " who cares about the past?".
but, if i started my adult life as a brainwashed slave to yhwh/jesus (and, don't give me any shit about jw's ignoring jesus), i am finishing it as a (somewhat-grin) enlightened man who just may have some understanding of the development of world thought.
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Its quite amazing to understand the energy that Mani (the founder) must have put into his mission. He covered far more ground than Paul did and likely achieved greater results. This is how the Quanzhou temple portrays him:
If you've never heard of Mani, this is a brief history:
Prophet Mani Born 216 CE
Ctesiphon, Parthian Babylonia[1](modern-day Iraq)Died 2 March 274 AD[2]
Gundeshapur, Sassanid Empire(modern-day Iran)Ethnicity Iranian Known for Founder of Manichaeism Religion Born to Elcesaites
Later founded ManichaeismParent(s) Pātik and Mariam And this is an image of Mani presenting a painting to King Bahram - unfortunately its a 16 C CE painting so unlikely to be accurate.
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An intellectual feast - A Conference in honour of Prof Samuel N.C.Lieu on his Retirement-Don't read if you don't like ideas
by fulltimestudent ini've been invited to attend this conference (limited attendance) and consider it an exciting privilege.
maybe for many it would be too boring, as a poster said on one of my threads, (my paraphrase) " who cares about the past?".
but, if i started my adult life as a brainwashed slave to yhwh/jesus (and, don't give me any shit about jw's ignoring jesus), i am finishing it as a (somewhat-grin) enlightened man who just may have some understanding of the development of world thought.
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If you wanted to know something about the early alternative version of Jewish Christianity that is now called
Manicheanism, you could consult Lieu's book - Manichaeism in Central Asia and China.
I've posted info previously about this last temple (being used as a Buddhist temple) in Quanzhou, Fujian province.
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An intellectual feast - A Conference in honour of Prof Samuel N.C.Lieu on his Retirement-Don't read if you don't like ideas
by fulltimestudent ini've been invited to attend this conference (limited attendance) and consider it an exciting privilege.
maybe for many it would be too boring, as a poster said on one of my threads, (my paraphrase) " who cares about the past?".
but, if i started my adult life as a brainwashed slave to yhwh/jesus (and, don't give me any shit about jw's ignoring jesus), i am finishing it as a (somewhat-grin) enlightened man who just may have some understanding of the development of world thought.
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I've been invited to attend this conference (limited attendance) and consider it an exciting privilege. Maybe for many it would be too boring, as a poster said on one of my threads, (my paraphrase) " Who cares about the past?"
But, if I started my adult life as a brainwashed slave to YHWH/Jesus (and, don't give me any shit about Jw's ignoring Jesus), I am finishing it as a (somewhat-grin) enlightened man who just may have some understanding of the development of world thought
For eight years, (thanks to the generous Australia government scheme that allows me to do this) I've been wandering through Asia with the help of two universities, the home (if you count Greece and Egypt as border zones). I've criss-crossed Asia, east to west, north to south and past to present. I have at least some knowledge of major religious and political developments and know where to go for more detailed information. (I will make clear at this point that I have not studied Islamic history and thought - it just turned me off.)
Macquarie was not my first choice university, but it turned out to be probably the best choice. When I first entertained the idea of studying for a degree, I was torn between learning about my past, in studying the origins of Judeao-Christianity or East Asia. In practise I found I was able to study both areas (with a little manipulation of the courses). One of the reasons for that was the presence of Sam Lieu at Macquarie, he didn't do a lot of teaching these past few years, but his research, particularly in the field of Manichean studies, and the early Asian churches has had great influence on the University courses.
Maybe the program will give you an insight:
Thursday: EURASIA ❂ SILK ROAD ❂ BYZANTIUM
A Conference in Honour of Prof. Samuel N.C. Lieu on His Retirement - Ancient History Documentary Research Centre
Macquarie University, Sydney - 26–27 November 2015
✮ Program ✮
Thursday 26 November
10.00-10.15 Welcome - GUNNER MIKKELSEN - IAN PLANT, HOD Ancient History
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10.15-11.15 HYUN JIN KIM (University of Melbourne)
Ethnic identity and the ‘Barbarian’ in ancient Eurasia: Classical Greece and early China
Chair: Paul McKechnie
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11.15-12.15 NICHOLAS SIMS-WILLIAMS (SOAS, London)-
The Bactrian archives: Reconstructing the lost history of Ancient Afghanistan
Chair: Ken Sheedy
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12.15-13.15 Lunch
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13.15-14.15 ENRICO MORANO (Turin & Berlin), ACRC Visiting Research Fellow
Some remarks on the corpus of the Berlin Manichaean Sogdian texts in Manichaean script: among books, glossaries, letters, booklets, bilingual and trilingual texts, normal, bold and cursive script
Chair: Javier Alvarez-Mon
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14.15-15.00 URSULA SIMS-WILLIAMS (British Library)
Manuscripts from the Southern Silk Road
Chair: Peter Edwell
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Living with Islam - in the small Australian city of Bendigo
by fulltimestudent inthe wife of my friend (the one i call gayxjw) had ancestors from there.. back in the 19th century a lot of people came from all over the world to look for gold.
among them there were many chinese.
they were often very organised, bringing baby pigs on the ships from china, seeds and seedlings for gardens they planned to start, etc.
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Bendigo seems an unlikely place to learn a lesson of tolerance. But maybe its not. The wife of my friend (the one I call GAYXJW) had ancestors from there.
Back in the 19th century a lot of people came from all over the world to look for gold. Among them there were many Chinese. They were often very organised, bringing baby pigs on the ships from China, seeds and seedlings for gardens they planned to start, etc. They were organised in the way they went about looking for gold too. That was all in great contrast to European and American gold seekers, whom brought little with them and expected to find big nuggets of gold. The Chinese dug the ground over carefully, and I think, likely found all the gold that could be found. This aroused great jealousy and hatred and often led to riots .
But back to the story of my friend's ancestors-in-law.
One of the Chinese gold seekers in the Wangaratta area of Victoria, did strike it rich (so to speak) and decided to stay in Australia. He bought a small pub in a town called Bright,
some of his descendants still live there. He looked around for a wife, and found a half-Chinese girl in the nearby town of Bendigo. From that union came a family that produced at least one soldier who fought in WW1, and another who fought in WW2 and was a POW of the Germans after being captured in Crete. So perhaps Bendigo, already had some tolerance toward those who could be called 'outsiders.'
The one who was captured by the Germans on Crete, became an atheist. Working in burial details, they had to look for identification and he noted that usually these dead soldiers all had worn photo's of family loved ones that they would never see again, thinking about it, he concluded that there was no god. But he did later became a JW, (quite a few Jws were once atheists- curious isn't it?) and was on the circuit work for some years.
I've gone to some detail to set a scene. At a time, when Australia became hostile to Chinese, and the start of what was called the "White Australia Policy," some were prepared to try another way. (Btw, from piks my friend has shown me, most of the family lost their Chinese looks).
Bendigo is again in the news, with perhaps a lesson in how to overcome intolerance.
This is quite a long TV show (about 45 minutes) but you may learn something from it:
Its from the Australian ABC. (Owned by the Australian government). It maybe only available for a few weeks, so apologies if later it cant be viewed.
http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/australian-story/NC1556Q043S00
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Dont forget the one who carries out (obediently) teh execution:
Quote: (From Revelation 19)
The Heavenly Warrior Defeats the Beast
11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
king of kings and lord of lords.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.”Does Jesus exult as he slaughters, saying, "take that you!!!." as he slashes a baby in half?
Does he laugh and grin at the fun he's having as he drools saliva, while he's wielding his mighty sword?
Or, ar'nt we supposed to think about that?
Remember what the song we used to sing said:
"Kiss his arse, lest he be angry and you perish in the way."
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The European tolerance of milk was inherited from Russian herders moving west from the Steppes.
by fulltimestudent indr bastien llamas, from the australian centre for ancient dna at the university of adelaide, has been studying the dna of peoples who are tolerant to milk as adults.. he argues that the dna from 230 eurasians who lived between 6500 bc and 300 bc, showed that russian herders from the great steppes, brought the enzymes for lactose tolerance into europe.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-24/europeans-drink-milk-tolerate-lactose-dates/6955414.
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Dr Bastien Llamas, from the Australian Centre for Ancient DNA at the University of Adelaide, has been studying the DNA of peoples who are tolerant to milk as adults.
He argues that the DNA from 230 Eurasians who lived between 6500 BC and 300 BC, showed that Russian herders from the Great Steppes, brought the enzymes for lactose tolerance into Europe.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-24/europeans-drink-milk-tolerate-lactose-dates/6955414
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Living with Islam
by fulltimestudent inindonesia is a large nation to the north of australia.
more than 250 million people live there, and around 204 million (88%) are muslim.
the indonesian armed forces have nearly a million personnel, either as active servicemen or reservists.. australia, with a population of 23 million, and an armed forces of 80,000 (active and reservist), has no choice but to live in co-operation with indonesia, though the relationship is sometimes strained.
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freemindfade: Sorry village idiot. These people you speak of are amateurs compared to Islam. Let me sound like a broken record. The central influence and theocracy of Christianity is not good but pretty benign. The nuts are on the fringe.
To say that you must ignore history, or take a very blinkered view of it.
First, in the past, official Christianity (to define a difference between the elites and the masses) acted on occasion in a way far worse than Islam today. Just a few instances for now - The European invasion of South America - from Columbus on, all in the name of Jesus. The spiritual terrorists of England (Protestant and Catholic) who, when the had the chance, burnt them to death. The Spanish inquisition, which refined torture to an art form. And the 100 years war and the thirty years wars of Europe which devastated Europe - both religious in foundation.
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Nazieh's reunion - a very human story
by fulltimestudent inforget the ideology, at least for the moment, and watch this story of loss and joy.. from the australian abc, a media source owned by the australian government.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-24/an-asylum-seekers-joyful-end-to-journey-of-death/6967488.
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Forget the ideology, at least for the moment, and watch this story of loss and joy.
From the Australian ABC, a media source owned by the Australian government.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-24/an-asylum-seekers-joyful-end-to-journey-of-death/6967488
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Straight from a Muslim: Who is to blame for ISIS?
by steve2 inthe message below was posted from a friend in singapore to me on friday 14th november 2015. my friend is not the author - but is an acquaintance of the author.
the post was subsequently "deleted" due to acute religious and political sensitvities in that city-state - but i can vouch for its authenticity.
my friend made a hard copy of the post - hence when the post was removed, a copy remained.. i have removed the author's name for obvious reasons.
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And this is the Russian President's opinion, answering a question ( about ISIS) from a US journalist at the Valdai International Discussion Club in late 2014.
