Ok, no it doesn't. Nicolaou is the be all end all expert on what kinds of antics / tactics it takes to get every single person out of dub land. I bow to your all encompassing knowledge of all things ex-jdub.
pbrow
i just watched this clip on youtube....i can't begin to say how it made me feel.
, i'm not sure who i am more annoyed about.
the bloke doing the commentry, the punk shouting at a serious and should be respectful religious event, or some of the youtube comments that follow.. and i find this so disrespectful.
Ok, no it doesn't. Nicolaou is the be all end all expert on what kinds of antics / tactics it takes to get every single person out of dub land. I bow to your all encompassing knowledge of all things ex-jdub.
pbrow
i just watched this clip on youtube....i can't begin to say how it made me feel.
, i'm not sure who i am more annoyed about.
the bloke doing the commentry, the punk shouting at a serious and should be respectful religious event, or some of the youtube comments that follow.. and i find this so disrespectful.
azor, we are all activists to a point. You can and hope do to the small group that you have influence over. The journey of a thousand miles starts with a raindrop or something like that. It takes all kinds and I hope that everyone here participates in the level of civil disobedience that they are comfortable with.
pbrow
i just watched this clip on youtube....i can't begin to say how it made me feel.
, i'm not sure who i am more annoyed about.
the bloke doing the commentry, the punk shouting at a serious and should be respectful religious event, or some of the youtube comments that follow.. and i find this so disrespectful.
I agree with most on here that these methods have little chance of causing change in tthe minds of die hard dubs. I am not even saying I would use this kind of "attention seeking narcissistic behaviour".
I get it, many on here are trying to wean themselves off the jw tit, slowly and painfully, trying to get their uber dub relatives out slowly and painfully. Seriously though, at the end of the day, fuck the hardcore dubs. They made their bed and they can sleep in it. I have a limited sphere of influence and I tailor it to each person that I interact with. THERE IS NO ONE SIZE FITS ALL!
Being raised in this church is damaging. If this is therapy for them and its non violent then yes, they are doing it for themselves to help themselves. If it happens to offend your 90 year old grandma at least the end is right around the corner so she wont be offended for long.
pbrow
i just watched this clip on youtube....i can't begin to say how it made me feel.
, i'm not sure who i am more annoyed about.
the bloke doing the commentry, the punk shouting at a serious and should be respectful religious event, or some of the youtube comments that follow.. and i find this so disrespectful.
This exact thread was blown up within the last year. While this type of in your face activisim is not for most people, who knows the impact this could have in a month, one year or 10 years down the road.
The older, trapped dubs are dyed in the wool. "Mentally Diseased, Mentally Diseased!!" They will always be extremely difficult to get out. Curious, rebellious young teens with a school issued chromebook can jump on the internet and look at what these "crazy fools" are talking about. If it helps one kid get out its worth it.
Takes all kinds
pbrow
recently my 'in' hubby did some work for another jw.
there was need for me to communicate with them and i used facebook to do so.
it was amusing to find the blue jwfacts.com logo on their page instead of the jw official logo!
Awesome... If this person is of the conscious class, when they are found out they could just say its a huge mistake and post the following correction....
"Sorry for the confusion, I posted jwfacts.com on accident. Jwfacts.com is a hoooorrrrrrrrrrible (insert Lett's facial expressions here) site that is seemingly well designed and made to look very informative about the Watchtower being a card carrying member of the UN for 10 years, allowing fellow witnesses of Jehovah to die because of not allowing organ transplants and even that the loving elders tried to hide thousands of pedophiles from the brothers and sisters!! Can you believe this?? You couldnt make this stuff up! PURE POPPYCOCK!!!!
As you are all aware the real site is jwdotorg, not jwfacts.com.... again NOT jwfacts.com!! "
pbrow
call on exjwreddit for experiences of those in the uk being shunned to send in to the uk charity commission.
https://m.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3wi621/final_call_for_shunning_experiences_from_the_uk/.
(just realized the title of this post sounds like you're being shunned because you're in the uk!!
Are you secretly trying to talk about The Donald??
pbrow
looking back we had been fading without even realizing it.
life happened...and we weren't regular.
then we woke up and have actively been fading for 9 months.
Turn in your letter, renounce your membership and be done with it. Do you really want to be an official member of an org that acts this way?
Dont kid yourself... until you write a letter and gtfo, you are still a member, still have to tippy toe, still have to fade. Your conscience will thank you for it.
pbrow
this is not meant to be a controversial discussion, but just mentioning what has happened to my daughter.. i personally started my fade early this year 2015, it has resulted in my losing all my so called jw friends and the brake-up of my marriage.
when i split up with my wife, she asked our daughter who she would like to live with, my daughter decided to live with me, and also abandoned the cult.. recently my daughter told me that she is very disappointed with the congregation of jehovah's witnesses because she thought she had friends there, but now she has realized that it was all conditional, not a single one of them has even remotely tried to keep contact with my daughter, she is 15, not baptized and never a publisher.. now yesterday she met up with a jehovah's witness friend who is in another congregation.
this friend is also 15, baptized since she was 14, a very dominant elder father, and has virtually no association outside jw circles, and also internet access is banned at home.
Lesson learned at 15, when these types of life lessons should happen. Mine happened at 30.
She is way ahead of the curve!!!
Congrats!!!!
pbrow
hi people,.
i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).
1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.
1. born in
2. july 1991
3. december 2010
Total years between baptism and da - 19 years + plus 14 years of missed opportunities as a child
pbrow
it would eliminate drive by's (gangs).
bank robbery.
( handing the bank teller a note, this is stick up without a gun).
The gun lobby or NRA more specifically is an orginization of like willed people who are putting together support and resources to influence their will in the democratic process. That is not undemocratic. That is how normal everyday citizens can influence their government. I am not so naive to think that gun manufactures are not supporting the gun lobby either, that is why I am glad of my antagonists on the other side of the issue who would keep us in check by our democratic process.
pbrow