Shilmer.... and a wide spread one at that!
Hearing the mention of John Denver always gave me this loathesome feeling towards him.... Satan must have created John Denver right after the smurfs.
What a sheep I was!
pbrow
i have renewed respect and admiration for john denver after watching/listening to this video.some of it reminds me of words by another john, john lennon.i really regret that my jw upbringing made me dislike john denver after some things he had said about jw's in his earlier career.
i would have loved to have heard this talk back in 1980 when it was first recorded.it hits home on so many levels of what we discuss on this very forum.
everything from evolution to spirituality,humanity to religion, the ineptitude of modern politics to solve mankind's problems.the things which we allow to divide us as humans but more importantly the things which we all should allow to unite us.it is 2 hours in length but i didn't regret the time spent watching it because it was one of those things that show that he had very similar ideas,philosophies,and feelings that have been expressed on here.after what many of us have been through on our journey and trying to escape a religion that we found we were trapped/bound to in some form or another,something tells me he'd felt right at home being with us.this recording is almost 36 years old so the sound and picture quality might not be what we're accustomed to today but is so worth the watching of it.
Shilmer.... and a wide spread one at that!
Hearing the mention of John Denver always gave me this loathesome feeling towards him.... Satan must have created John Denver right after the smurfs.
What a sheep I was!
pbrow
my name is stephen and i am new to the forum.
i am a christadelphian and through my discussions with fellow members of my ecclesia it has inspired me to reach out to other religions to find out exactly what others believe to enhance my own faith and further bring me closer to our heavenly father.
in no way do i mean disrespect if it has been caused.
I think galaxie made some excellent points.
I guess before I could get into a biblical discussion with you I would need to know what you believe about the bible. Do you believe that it is literally god's word? Is the bible more or less good stories that we can learn life lessons from? If you in fact believe it is inspired by the creator of the universe, before I pattern my life after its teachings, I would need to know what proof do you have of this? and how is your proof different or more convincing then muslims have for their koran?
pbrow
this "miracle wheat" article is getting too long!
hahaha.
but here is the short description (without the proofs and many newspaper and wt articles in full, which will come in the pdf version):.
Excellent report. Thank you for the time and effort!
One of my bucket list items is to piss on this fool's pyramid. That is all the justice I need besides living a free life.
pbrow
to be precise, he is my brothers nephew but that makes no difference really.
mum is 71 and a true, hardcore jw.
she's a good mum but has a real blind spot where her faith is concerned.. i know her.
Go get em nic!
The good news is that your nephew is not completely encased in the bubble like you and I were. Jehovah this and Satan that was all we knew and that is what makes the dubs powerful. I know you said its not your kid but the mental capacity of your average 10 year old (especially with the encouragement of his uncle) is enough to keep this little shaver out of the cult. Help him reason and not to mention inform his parents and you will be good to go!
I also read the post about your brother and I feel a distinct kinship with you because of that story although mine is still in.
Good luck,
pbrow
( jw governing body members are invited to respond) .
however professional and glossy their pr makeover is, as seen on jw tv and the jw org logo... the bottom line is that 19th century religious adventist claims are no longer sexy..
to outsiders the jw org now has all the allure of a donkey wearing lipstick..
unbeliever.... by 100 years you mean "right around the corner" right?
pbrow
( jw governing body members are invited to respond) .
however professional and glossy their pr makeover is, as seen on jw tv and the jw org logo... the bottom line is that 19th century religious adventist claims are no longer sexy..
to outsiders the jw org now has all the allure of a donkey wearing lipstick..
Your post is an affront to lipstick wearing donkey lovers everywhere!!!
Allahu Akbar!!!!
Slimboy... last days???!!! How do you know we are in the last days?? You say "last days" almost like you KNOW that we are in fact, in them. How do you come to this seemingly certain conclusion?
pbrow
this is a pretty good example of the limitations of "bloodless medicine", and why the informed choice should always be "blood conservation" medicine, which retains the safety net of blood transfusion when medically required.
sadly, the watchtower fails to inform jws regarding these important limitations, and their potentially disastrous consequences.. http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id=1202750028414/jury-awards-100k-to-family-of-jehovahs-witness-who-died-after-refusing-blood-transfusion?mcode=0&curindex=0&curpage=3&slreturn=20160118223352.
Hope the father grows a pair now and gets his kids out of this cult! He no longer has the built in home redundancy program to keep doubts away.. I predict he will be out in year.
pbrow
this is a pretty good example of the limitations of "bloodless medicine", and why the informed choice should always be "blood conservation" medicine, which retains the safety net of blood transfusion when medically required.
sadly, the watchtower fails to inform jws regarding these important limitations, and their potentially disastrous consequences.. http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id=1202750028414/jury-awards-100k-to-family-of-jehovahs-witness-who-died-after-refusing-blood-transfusion?mcode=0&curindex=0&curpage=3&slreturn=20160118223352.
Clearly a true believer.
You would hope this would help the family wake up but sadly will most likely reinforce this disgusting morality.
pbrow
back in my teen years this story swept through jw land, that according to, the guinness book of records , freddy franz, was listed as one of the seven, most intelligent , men in the world.
dose anyone else remember this?
i remember trying to look it up, but never found anything in print, and ii point that out once or twice , and was told a co, had told about it, and he wouldn't lie!
If memorizing the bible is a dub's reason to exalt a person then I would say every witness should read Thomas Paine's Age of Reason.
or really any ex witness should read it as well.
pbrow
this should be fun.
building a wall is unchristian.
i can't understand why the pope is getting involved in american politics.. poor donald..
Hey slimboy... cmon man!!
Christianity is founded on child sacrifice.... Literally!