this is short and quick but maybe it's a seed to plant in the 10 days until the memorial.
i have talked to jws who tell me their reason for not eating the bread and drinking the cup is because that was only a new covenant with his disciples (and in their wonky extension, the 144,000).
but i just thought of a few things.
Those are excellent points.
Right before my kids have to go to the memorial with their mother I always ask them "what does jesus tell you to do with the wine and bread? and what do the elders tell you to do with the wine and bread?... Who should you listen to?"
If you are a christian and beleive the bible holds any weight, those two questions pretty much destroy any credence to the "sit and pass" mentality of the dubs.
pbrow
the topic of circumcision has been brought up a few times recently.
then i wondered... .
how do women really view circumcision?
Hitchens said it best...
"ahhhh... a new born baby.. almost perfect... now give me a sharp stone so that I may do the work of the lord"
pbrow
https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-fight-law-requiring-child-sex-abuse-be-reported-to-police/.
pretty pathetic... as usual .
pbrow.
https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-fight-law-requiring-child-sex-abuse-be-reported-to-police/
pretty pathetic... as usual
pbrow
just looking for some of your views / advice:i am divorced and am together with my dear boy every second weekend for 2.5 days.
he is now 3 years old and heavily indoctrinated by his mum and grandmother.today he told me: "daddy, jehovah is high up in heaven.
we can't see him, but he is there.
Three years old? All you need to do is say Ok, lets be gods friend.
Who gave you those legs? Jehovah? ok lets sign up for soccer!
Who gave you your brain? Jehovah? ok lets sign up for girl/boy scouts!
Who gave you all those friends in kindergarten? Jehovah? lets have a sleepover!!
Who gave you to me? Jehovah? Lets celebrate your birthday with all those friends from boy/girl scouts and kindergarten and we can even play soccer at your party!!!
Dont overcomplicate it. Do not go negative. Get your kids involved and break the bubble that the dubs create. Its not that difficult but you cannot be a fader! I was a born in and have two tweens that have been raised in the church by their mother. One just moved in with me full time and the other is loving sports and all her "worldly friends"
pbrow
https://40.media.tumblr.com/7ce1d21db596005d5c2ede6019344ea4/tumblr_o2wp9alyhv1v9597go1_1280.jpghttps://41.media.tumblr.com/81c5d7be56b93b2811d8d4f9c077fd76/tumblr_o2wp9alyhv1v9597go2_1280.jpg.
https://41.media.tumblr.com/d3758f3a4b801f96d550f8d361abef81/tumblr_o2wp9alyhv1v9597go3_1280.jpg.
have you heard about the eye of horus?
The eye of horus is a man made symbol. The Freemasons use lots of man made symbols. The naked human body is a naked human body but i suppose it could be a symbol for..... whatever you want to make it a symbol for. Any "promised thing" in the bible or koran or the cat in the hat is a man made symbol.
Dont take any of it too seriously
pbrow
are our dead loved ones watching over us at all or are they really just gone now?
While the thought of my grandmother looking over her seven kids and numerous grandchildren has its charms, I certainly dont want her looking down while I am... well... you know...
pbrow
i have renewed respect and admiration for john denver after watching/listening to this video.some of it reminds me of words by another john, john lennon.i really regret that my jw upbringing made me dislike john denver after some things he had said about jw's in his earlier career.
i would have loved to have heard this talk back in 1980 when it was first recorded.it hits home on so many levels of what we discuss on this very forum.
everything from evolution to spirituality,humanity to religion, the ineptitude of modern politics to solve mankind's problems.the things which we allow to divide us as humans but more importantly the things which we all should allow to unite us.it is 2 hours in length but i didn't regret the time spent watching it because it was one of those things that show that he had very similar ideas,philosophies,and feelings that have been expressed on here.after what many of us have been through on our journey and trying to escape a religion that we found we were trapped/bound to in some form or another,something tells me he'd felt right at home being with us.this recording is almost 36 years old so the sound and picture quality might not be what we're accustomed to today but is so worth the watching of it.
Shilmer.... and a wide spread one at that!
Hearing the mention of John Denver always gave me this loathesome feeling towards him.... Satan must have created John Denver right after the smurfs.
What a sheep I was!
pbrow
my name is stephen and i am new to the forum.
i am a christadelphian and through my discussions with fellow members of my ecclesia it has inspired me to reach out to other religions to find out exactly what others believe to enhance my own faith and further bring me closer to our heavenly father.
in no way do i mean disrespect if it has been caused.
I think galaxie made some excellent points.
I guess before I could get into a biblical discussion with you I would need to know what you believe about the bible. Do you believe that it is literally god's word? Is the bible more or less good stories that we can learn life lessons from? If you in fact believe it is inspired by the creator of the universe, before I pattern my life after its teachings, I would need to know what proof do you have of this? and how is your proof different or more convincing then muslims have for their koran?
pbrow
this "miracle wheat" article is getting too long!
hahaha.
but here is the short description (without the proofs and many newspaper and wt articles in full, which will come in the pdf version):.
Excellent report. Thank you for the time and effort!
One of my bucket list items is to piss on this fool's pyramid. That is all the justice I need besides living a free life.
pbrow
to be precise, he is my brothers nephew but that makes no difference really.
mum is 71 and a true, hardcore jw.
she's a good mum but has a real blind spot where her faith is concerned.. i know her.
Go get em nic!
The good news is that your nephew is not completely encased in the bubble like you and I were. Jehovah this and Satan that was all we knew and that is what makes the dubs powerful. I know you said its not your kid but the mental capacity of your average 10 year old (especially with the encouragement of his uncle) is enough to keep this little shaver out of the cult. Help him reason and not to mention inform his parents and you will be good to go!
I also read the post about your brother and I feel a distinct kinship with you because of that story although mine is still in.
Good luck,
pbrow
