Brother Limon... was in madison wi area in the early 80's... Always brought us kids up on the stage and did Bible story book "trivia"
I loved that guy
pbrow
some were humble, but their were a few pompous asses who thought they were gods gift to the org and acted like they were ceo's of a fortune 500 company...
Brother Limon... was in madison wi area in the early 80's... Always brought us kids up on the stage and did Bible story book "trivia"
I loved that guy
pbrow
abuse is such a serious word and i'd hate to use it lightly so if anyone reading this has suffered physical or sexual abuse please know that i absolutely do not equate religious abuse with your suffering.
that being said, many of us were lied to and manipulated for decades.
this cultic 'abuse' has borne fruit in shattered relationships, broken families and estranged children.
good points all.
At some point though you have to stop being the victim and start actively being a survivor. It is easy to get into the victim mentality and stay there. Get out.... live a good life and if you have kids DO NOT FADE!!! Your kids are worth it !!
pbrow
i have been very lucky in the past month or so.
i have had both the mormons and the jws call on me.. .
the mormons called first.
Learning about the gnostic gospels opened my eyes about the bible being in fact man made.
Nice work and good tactics
pbrow
if i mention "1984" you will probably think of george orwell and his book " 1984".however i think of "1984" as a year in my life when watford football club reached the f.a cup final.
( the f.a cup is the biggest footballing occasion in english sport, and my club " little watford" were in it) but instead of going to watch the game, i was forced by my dad to miss attending the match and prioritize on theocratic w.t study.. so for me the year 1984 was the year i should have woken up to " the truth about the truth" sadly it took another 30 years of generation and doctrinal change before this boy became " awake" and understood his defining moment and realized he was fooled by the w.t.. anyway 1984 was a long time ago, but today in 2016, i realized 1984 had a " modern day 2016 application" that happened last saturday, when i took my boy to watch my " little " watford play "mighty "manchester united" and we won 3.1. now it's wednesday and my boy and i are still on cloud 9, even orlandos school teacher started monday lessons by saying " well done watford ".
yes little watford outplayed and beat the mighty united.
1984 does indeed have a modern day application!
You are wide awake now so your son doesnt have to be asleep!
Congrats! you have broken the chain!
pbrow
now, i have been mentally "awake" for quite a while, but i'll just say march/april this year.
i won't go into detail about what it was that made me "realize" everything, so don't bother asking.. so, i've known for years that i wasn't like most girls in my classes, kingdom hall, and just in general.
from a very young age i had that obvious interest in the same sex, but seeing as i was seemingly the only one feeling that way i would brush it off and eventually i started getting interested in guys.
I second nicolaou sentiments.... You are literally being the change you wish to see in the world.
This is a quote from my favorite movie (V for Vendetta) and helped me sever all guilt about being myself and getting out of the jdub organization...
The actress is talking about integrity.....
"I shall die here. Every inch of me shall perish. Every inch, but one. An Inch, it is small and it is fragile, but it is the only thing the world worth having. We must never lose it or give it away. We must never let them take it from us. I hope that whoever you are, you escape this place. I hope that the world turns and that things get better. But what I hope most of all is that you understand what I mean when I tell you that even though I do not know you, and even though I may never meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you. I love you. With all my heart, I love you."
Reading your story gave me the same reaction as when I saw the movie for the first time.
pbrow
You mean to tell me we had our very own jdub Jessie Jackson???
I missed out on all the good shit...
RIP jdub Jessie Jackson... you can no longer do harm
pbrow
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/man-shot-iconic-9-11-photo-doomed-fire-truck-article-1.2786008.
l118 crossing brooklyn bridge.
mid-article says he was a volly at jdub "book-making factory" .
Hey smiddy... that would be great to hear from him! I got the impression that he was not simply by the off handed way "book making factory" was used in the piece.
pbrow
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/man-shot-iconic-9-11-photo-doomed-fire-truck-article-1.2786008.
l118 crossing brooklyn bridge.
mid-article says he was a volly at jdub "book-making factory" .
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/man-shot-iconic-9-11-photo-doomed-fire-truck-article-1.2786008
L118 crossing Brooklyn Bridge
Mid-article says he was a volly at jdub "book-making factory"
Hope that means that he is "out" now.
Pretty somber picture.
pbrow
every time i see photos of new jw parents cuddling up to their new babies.. every time i see people giving the parents new baby cards & gifts.. every time i see them having fun with their children.. i think to myself; 'you would shun your kids' .
if they don't end up being jw's.
if they simply publicly declare that they don't believe.
I will make the wild assumption that they still love their children. Unfortunately, they have made something else more important in their lives, namely their love for their own personal god who they think demands them to shun unbelieving children. The saying "if their is no god than anything is permissible" should really be 'if you believe in god anything is permissible"
This is certainly not an excuse for unloving behavior. I hate hearing the stories of what we all have had to go through as ex dubs. It is only when we truly understand why people act they way they do that we can make meaningful attempts to help correct their step.
pbrow
1. concerns about the effects it would have on yours and your family's social life.. 2. fear of being shunned.
3. the stress it will cause.
4. the thought of feeling isolated.
You sound like I did.. that is to say, you sound like a born in. If the gb had any doubt their model of indoctrination is not working they have only to look at your list and realize that it is running at peak efficiency. Your list exemplifies the fact that you have fallen for what THEY want you to think is important.
I have said it before... the watchtower is awesome at creating adults with low self esteem. Your first step in rectifying this is to get the fuck out. There are many excuses for not leaving. There are very few excuses that hold any weight against the weight of becoming your own true self.
pbrow