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  If Jehovah God was in "Human Form" with his Theocratic Nation on earth in todays climate he would be facing Human rights issues.

  by smiddy in

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  where does one start :.

  he is guilty of genocide for the attempted and succesful ,killing off other nations not leaving man woman or child alive.. he is guilty of barbarism against women for not living up to his rules or regulations such as cutting off a womans hand for defending her husband in a brawl with another man.. he is guilty of condemning the whole human race for the misdemeanor of the first human pair for eating a fruit he said not to eat ?

  a bit over the top dont you think ?.

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  I thought I came up with " jdub" before I got on this site.

  There are only so many words and phrases in the english language. We are bound to come up with similar terms even though we never conversed.

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  Would You Outlaw Jehovah's Witnesses If You Had Your Way?

  by minimus in

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  i still believe in freedom of religion even if i disagree with the beliefsof the religion.

  what about you?.

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  Other then taking away tax exempt status, you cannot ban or outlaw religion.

  The laws in the US pretty much cover the behavior. It floors me how people want to take away liberty because they were hurt by a church.

  Sure, there are cases that fall through the cracks, some followers will not seek medical treatment for themselves or their children but using the federal government to stomp out ideas is not the way to deal with bad ideas.

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  DA myself to relieve great pressure?

  by Isambard Crater in

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  my lifelong mental illnesses, fuelled significantly by the borg, are very bad at the moment and result in me missing lots of midweek meetings, but i haven't missed a sunday in years except the occasional vacation.. the nature of my mental and emotional illnesses mean that i, as a physically in and mentally out pimo, take to heart very painfully admonishment from the platform to never miss meetings, preach all i can, and so on.. okay, i report 3 hours each month on average and no elder has ever said anything, but when they make comments on the platform, i feel such great guilt and shame, but also anger, as they do not understand my illnesses and when i do mention my situation to elders, they kind of minimise and joke about it.. some other sisters in my congregation started "officially" not attending midweek meetings a few year's ago because of their own health circumstances, but i know for a fact that some elders look down on them for this reason, not showing real understanding deep down even if they do on the surface.. i have reached the point where i want to hand in a da letter as a cry for help, or more like a clear indicator to them that when i say i'm not well enough to attend midweek, i really mean it and it's not just an excuse.

  sure, i'm only 42, but i can still be too fragile to go out at night with a 30 minute drive both ways..

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  Nicely said DOC
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  DA myself to relieve great pressure?

  by Isambard Crater in

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  my lifelong mental illnesses, fuelled significantly by the borg, are very bad at the moment and result in me missing lots of midweek meetings, but i haven't missed a sunday in years except the occasional vacation.. the nature of my mental and emotional illnesses mean that i, as a physically in and mentally out pimo, take to heart very painfully admonishment from the platform to never miss meetings, preach all i can, and so on.. okay, i report 3 hours each month on average and no elder has ever said anything, but when they make comments on the platform, i feel such great guilt and shame, but also anger, as they do not understand my illnesses and when i do mention my situation to elders, they kind of minimise and joke about it.. some other sisters in my congregation started "officially" not attending midweek meetings a few year's ago because of their own health circumstances, but i know for a fact that some elders look down on them for this reason, not showing real understanding deep down even if they do on the surface.. i have reached the point where i want to hand in a da letter as a cry for help, or more like a clear indicator to them that when i say i'm not well enough to attend midweek, i really mean it and it's not just an excuse.

  sure, i'm only 42, but i can still be too fragile to go out at night with a 30 minute drive both ways..

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  Isambard Crater,

  Jdubs are awesome at creating adults with low self esteem and low self confidence. I am guessing that you are a born in.

  You are 42 years old. No one is forcing you to stay. No one has a gun to your head. You will face very real consequences for leaving but you will gain your freedom and hopefully lose your guilt. Only you can determine if that is a worthwhile trade off. You have already shown us what you "gain" by being part of this organization.

  "My dad is an elder and regularly checks on me and also talks to my local elders" Every born in here knows what that means and now that we are completely out.... we know how fucked up that statement is.

  You are being piss pounded every day by this cult. That is not right, that is not normal. You are being judged at every sunday talk, by every two faced sister saying "we missed you at the meeting, by every idiot that tells you to focus on service or prayers or meetings. That is not right or normal. You are drowning in a sea of toxic sludge. Remove it from your life like the cancer it is.

  We have been there, we have cared what these people think, we have endured the stares and the talks and nagging guilt that has been pounded in your head for last 42 years. Believe it or not... the stage you are at now is normal. Not knowing which way to go.... shows to me that you are internally questioning "which way do i go"

  Take your time or leave tomorrow. You control that. Start with that control and do what you need to do for yourself.

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  DA myself to relieve great pressure?

  by Isambard Crater in

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  my lifelong mental illnesses, fuelled significantly by the borg, are very bad at the moment and result in me missing lots of midweek meetings, but i haven't missed a sunday in years except the occasional vacation.. the nature of my mental and emotional illnesses mean that i, as a physically in and mentally out pimo, take to heart very painfully admonishment from the platform to never miss meetings, preach all i can, and so on.. okay, i report 3 hours each month on average and no elder has ever said anything, but when they make comments on the platform, i feel such great guilt and shame, but also anger, as they do not understand my illnesses and when i do mention my situation to elders, they kind of minimise and joke about it.. some other sisters in my congregation started "officially" not attending midweek meetings a few year's ago because of their own health circumstances, but i know for a fact that some elders look down on them for this reason, not showing real understanding deep down even if they do on the surface.. i have reached the point where i want to hand in a da letter as a cry for help, or more like a clear indicator to them that when i say i'm not well enough to attend midweek, i really mean it and it's not just an excuse.

  sure, i'm only 42, but i can still be too fragile to go out at night with a 30 minute drive both ways..

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  Should you DA? That is only a choice you can make.

  What help are you going to get from an organization that believes that soon... any day now... right around the corner... god is going to take care of mental health issues? They literally have nothing to offer you!

  Have you ever heard the phrase "when you realize you are digging yourself into a hole, the first step is to put down the shovel?"

  Put the fucking shovel down!! You are shining example of what the org hopes to accomplish with people who have doubts. They have you doubting yourself!!

  Make no mistake... you are by NO MEANS mentally out. They have you right where they want you! You still report field service time, you still care what these asshats say on the platform and you are making excuses for missing meetings.

  You are trapped. You are in a locked room but MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT THIS ONE THING.......Your locked room is locked from the INSIDE. You can open it whenever you want and leave it all behind!!

  These people and this organization is toxic. You can cut them out whenever you want!!

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  Letter to my JW elder brother

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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  i sent the following letter to my older brother, a jw elder in grand prairie, texas, who actively shuns me since i left the religion for conscientious reasons two years ago.. may 11, 2017. dear ronnie,.

  in the opening scenes of the movie gone with the wind, a field worker hollers out, “”quttin’ time!” big sam protests, saying, “i’s da fo’man on tara.

  i sez when it’s quittin’ time.

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  my point of view is that understated "fuck offs" are the best!
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  Letter to my JW elder brother

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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  i sent the following letter to my older brother, a jw elder in grand prairie, texas, who actively shuns me since i left the religion for conscientious reasons two years ago.. may 11, 2017. dear ronnie,.

  in the opening scenes of the movie gone with the wind, a field worker hollers out, “”quttin’ time!” big sam protests, saying, “i’s da fo’man on tara.

  i sez when it’s quittin’ time.

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  Hey Roger.. awesome letter. DA'ing is a powerful way to formally leave the group that you formally joined. You are literally taking back your power from the organization and telling them in no uncertain terms.. "I no longer give you any power over me" It was a huge weight off my shoulders.

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  Why is the approval of family so important?

  by jwfacts in

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  one of the reasons people remain pimo is fear of losing family.

  those that are disfellowshipped and shunned regularly comment about how devastated that they have lost the approval of their parents.. when i respond to emails from people saying how difficult it is being estranged or looked down on by their parents, i would like to say that over time they will come to terms with it, except i not sure that people ever do.

  i cannot shake that feeling either.

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  Your brain is literally wired from a young age when you are a cult member. If you are doing good for the group, you get praise, if you are not, then you are working for the devil. After 18 years of this bullshit your brain is fucked up. JW's are awesome at creating kids and young adults with low self esteem and low self confidence.

  You crave their acceptance because they have conditioned you to be that way. Its a cult tactic. Its how they get born ins to stay for 20, 30, 40 and 50 years and in turn train their kids that way.

  Your craving acceptance from your parents is your cognitive dissonance. You have woken up. You know that how they treat people is fucked up. You know that how they treat people is abusive, but at the same time you have had your brain wired from an early age to crave their acceptance even though the new programming you are learning tells you that people like your parents are toxic.

  Raising your kids in this cult is one of the worst things you can do for them. If you have children you cannot be complacent, you cannot hide your personal beliefs from them about this cult. I faded for about three months but realized that me being quiet about this cult only reinforced my acceptance of it. Your children absolutely need to see your open defiance of this thought control, this group think.

  Be the kind of parent that raises children that never have to come on an ex-whatever website and ask fucked up questions like this one. Our parents chose to raise us in a cult. That is fucked up.

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  What Kind of Activism?

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  activism or any kind of push back really is not about the size of your emotion, your disgust, or the feeling of powerless frustration at the religion.being an ex-jw is about one of two things and two things only:1. being effective.

  2. being ineffectiveto which i add: effective at what?1.

  not identifying yourself as the foaming at the mouth, demonic, mentally diseased piece of shit the watchtower has framed you out to be in the minds of their captive slaves.2.

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  Thanks for assuming the motives of every ex here. You must be a mind reader

  We all do things for our own reasons.

  If being effective is your aim, then stay in plant seeds from within. I wanted to lead my own life and my kids to be able to live normal lives. The ones stuck in can leave when they are ready to leave.

  Picketing a convention, raising a toast at the memorial or simply engaging the dubs at a cart are all ways of helping to lay the bricks of doubt. There are so many different people and different ways of being woken up that taking any option off the table is shortsighted.

  Dont be a dick, dont be violent and I am ok with a little civil disobedience.

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  Im "Going To Die In Armageddon"

  by pale.emperor in

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  3 missed calls from my jw brother last night.

  i didnt answer because he's actively shunning me and when he does ring it always to preach to me about how we're so close to the end and how i should "humble myself before the mighty hand of god" .

  he then texts me saying "we need to talk".

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  Well... I guess they are technically not shunning you if they keep contacting you....

  You just dont like what they have to say

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