hoser,
The user "outsmartthesystem" sent me a packet that he and his lawyer came up with. If you pm him he was willing to send it to people. It is very good.
pbrow
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5A friend of mine needs help with child custody
by hoser ina friend of mine has a one year old he wants to get joint custody of with his jw ex wife.
he is dfd.
he told me the elders already testified for his ex and lied in court.
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I think that is something that converts dont truly understand. When you are raised as a born in you literally think the end is so.... very.... nearly.... here... any.....day.... was that thunder.... or the start of armagedon?... and you think this almost every day!!
The anxiety is real for children. Get them out!!
I was personally worried about not being able to see Back to the Future part 3
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What JW.ORG Needs - Live Chat Feature
by Garrett insomeone with influence needs to persuade the gb to add a live chat feature to the website.. i was strolling through the mormon site out of curiosity and noticed they had a live chat option.
golly, i can't pass this up.
i decided to talk to jake and spencer.
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I was thinking about this a little more....
If the dubs opened up a chat feature.... The jwdotorg website would become apostate in less than 1 year. It would give simon a welcome run for his money!!
Thats why it will never happen.
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What JW.ORG Needs - Live Chat Feature
by Garrett insomeone with influence needs to persuade the gb to add a live chat feature to the website.. i was strolling through the mormon site out of curiosity and noticed they had a live chat option.
golly, i can't pass this up.
i decided to talk to jake and spencer.
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I am thinking I like Tatooing for a planet... nice moons... lots of beach. That's the planet for me!
Talk about brazen... Mormons are clearly more committed than the dubs because they believe what they believe and still have a chat function.... The dubs are just a bunch of pussies!!
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Those JW pins and Jewelry
by AudeSapere ini'm not surprised but i must admit to a little eye roll.... looking at some photos on my brother's facebook page, i stumbled on a picture of our mother.
it took a few cycles thru the photos before i realized that mom has a jw pin on her top.. not surprising, but wanted to share.. we have not spoken in a long time.
for a while she was calling me every couple of weeks from her cell phone in the morning.
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Not suprised??? My kid came home the other day after being with mom and had a jw.org wristband on! I know it seems stupid to newer folks but anyone in for more than 10 years knows what a huge deal this jewelry is.
I couldn't believe it.... all that talk about golden calves, wearing crosses and idle worship. S'all good now!
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Wife is FOR SURE waking up
by cappytan inwell, this is a new development.
she broached the subject of ttatt tonight.
said i was right about the flood.
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Congrats Bro Cappy!!
Sounds like its only a matter of time!... Because at the end of the day... The end isnt coming so thats really all we have!
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If this isn't the truth, then what is our hope?
by Gigi2121 ini'm new here but not new to researching and questioning the jw beliefs.
i have quite a story.... one that's been haunting me for awhile... but first, i'd like to hear what people have to say about this topic question, please.. -gigi.
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I like Fayes idea.... Go to some churches and listen to what they have to say. Waking up and getting out of the dub lifestyle is very empowering and frightening not only because you do not know what you will find but mainly because you have had blinders on for so many years.
Good luck, enjoy the ride and welcome to your personal freedom!
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Had a major blow out
by freemindfade inmy mom was emailing a group thread of rhetoric about isis and armageddon, and i finally got sick of it and said some pretty intense harsh things about ideals, and wishing for armageddon.
then it went back and forth like some debate, all the while i am holding back unloading serious ttatt on my family.
i put a whole bunch of scriptures where the wonderful yahweh committed infanticide.
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Vidiot,
That is exactly my point though. So you are bending THEIR rules. You are playing THEIR game. Believe me when I say I worried about losing what I thought were lifelong friendships and family members. I, like all of us who have left, suffered the loss of what I thought were true friendships. With all the people i knew and loved, it was extremely difficult for me to come to grips with the fact that I did not have many real relationships. As many of us are keenly aware, I know exactly what is on the minds of many people who think that fading is a good idea.
I have a brother that will not talk to me, I have a mother that will not be seen in public with me, "friends" i grew up with since the age of four years old will not even come to my children's soccer games. I know what is at stake, i know what loss is. If you fade, you are perpetuating their game, you are playing their game, you are in essence giving their game validity. That is my point. I can understand why people do it, I just don't think it is the best way.
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Had a major blow out
by freemindfade inmy mom was emailing a group thread of rhetoric about isis and armageddon, and i finally got sick of it and said some pretty intense harsh things about ideals, and wishing for armageddon.
then it went back and forth like some debate, all the while i am holding back unloading serious ttatt on my family.
i put a whole bunch of scriptures where the wonderful yahweh committed infanticide.
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Faye... I fully understand that. The problem is when you fade you are still playing by "their" rules. Walking on eggshells to not stir the pot. No matter what I think of it or what you or anyone else thinks of "fading" it is a shortsighted solution. Take your stand and don't allow the shunning.
I love my mother dearly. If I had just faded, walked on eggshells to not stir the pot to protect our relationship, she would not be on her journey out of this cult. Instead I made the decision to get completely out and simply do not allow her to shun me. What is your family going to do... call the police to force you off of their property?? Even if your family were to do that... MAKE THEM!!
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The difference between old school dubs and modern dubs - and the GB 2.0
by TheListener inold school witnesses thrived on the fact they were different and persecuted for it.
it was a point of pride.. i think the whole witness experience is much more social based for younger and newer witnesses.
that may be why so many newer ones that come to this board cannot understand or accept some of the information we present here about how things "used to be".
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Hey listener... I had an aunt that was awesome at putting together large congregation gatherings. I remember when it just stopped when I was a teenager and I had no idea why.
Now, looking at all these non-witness songs being played in the kingdom hall is pretty surreal. Although I try not to get to worked up about it because this new phenomenon does appear normal and us older school dubs look silly saying "thats bullshit 'cause I couldnt play worldly songs in my wedding"
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