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  Most important lesson from Daniel's Prophesy - "Do YOU recognize the "holy ones of the Supreme one?"

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... not that they would ever toot their own horn.

  * * * daniel's prophesy, chap.17, par.3 * * *.

  have you found the holy ones of the supreme one, and are you associating with them?

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  I know it was requested but.... um.... thanks for posting that drivel?!?! I cant read past the 2nd paragraph and want to scratch my eyes out.

  Dear allah, these people are deluded!

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  Invisible Rulership - one of the dumbest things I ever believed in

  by Black Man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having now been out of the cult for a few years, it really shocks me about some of the nonsense i used to believe in.

  like for instance, christ ruling in the midst of his enemies, but doing so invisibly.. let's let that one sink in for a minute.

  you've supposedly got a king who is ruling for a kingdom, but it is an invisible rule.

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  Hey banana...

  Was at one of the mega churches last week. Just staring at what an impressive structure and logistics its takes to get these things built. I couldnt help but thinking about all the people, energy, needless suffering and all the money.... throughout history that has been expended in the name of religion. For an unprovable deity that does not intervene in our lives at all.

  Oh well... gotta spend the lives, time and money somehow eh?

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  Caleb and Sofia used to brainwash children

  by shattered_origins in

  1. social
  2. family

  okay, i need to vent.

  as a newly awoken individual, i have yet to "come out" to my hard core jdub parents.

  my plan was to lay low and use my unbelieving husband and baby as an excuse for my "inactivity", it has worked for the last few months.

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  Shattered...

  You are free with your husband and most importantly your children. So many would dream to be in your position. GTFO!! I know its hard to hear but if you have to silence your own voice because of family or friends then they are toxic for you and your children.

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  Invisible Rulership - one of the dumbest things I ever believed in

  by Black Man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having now been out of the cult for a few years, it really shocks me about some of the nonsense i used to believe in.

  like for instance, christ ruling in the midst of his enemies, but doing so invisibly.. let's let that one sink in for a minute.

  you've supposedly got a king who is ruling for a kingdom, but it is an invisible rule.

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  I just have to say "eff you" blackman!!

  Of all the stupid things i believed and told others about.... your right... this is about as stupid as it gets!

  uuuhhhhhgg... Thanks for reminding me!!! (sticks head back in sand)

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  CO Comes Up With A New Way To Be Judgemental...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  at the latest co visit something very strange happened.

  during the meeting with the elders and servants he passed out a copy of a hypothetical publisher card and asked us what we could learn from it.

  upon receiving it i saw that the average hours were pretty good, it had return visits and quite a few bible studies.

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  Did you say "yes that sounds unreasonable"??

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  jdub legal page

  by pbrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  was just checking out the jdub website and came across their "legal developements and human rights" page.. http://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/.

  notice the glaring absence of one paticular kind of "legal developements"?

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  Was just checking out the jdub website and came across their "legal developements and human rights" page.

  http://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/

  Notice the glaring absence of one paticular kind of "legal developements"?

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  Something interesting!

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

  we both served as elders for years.

  he is in his late 70s.

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  I am in the age range of 30's & 40's. This is completely anecdotal but I wasted enough of my life being raised in this cult, no way I was going to subject myself and my children to any more of this shit. Some of the older ones have way too much invested in family and friends, they already indoctrinated their children and developed conditional lifelong relationships that would be very difficult although not impossible to start over.

  It would be interested to hear reasons for staying / reasons for leaving for people in this age group.

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  Did Jesus really die on a cross?

  by macys in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  being raised a catholic we had lots of crosses around the house.

  when my family converted to this cult they were all removed and destroyed in case they had demons in them lol but at this juncture in my life i do not even know if jesus as the way he is portrayed in the bible was real.

  yes a man named jesus did live and die 2000 years ago and probably on a cross but he was definitely not the son of god.

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  I thought there was a scan of the entire source material that the S.I book took out of context explaining that the "stauros" was indeed a stake or pole. The dubs jumped all over this because it did appear to back up their claims. The entire quote goes on to talk about how it was most likely that another pole was attached to the stake to make the "t" shape.

  WTBTS quote mines the shit out of anything they can to back up their claims.

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  Hey everybody! Just droppin' in :)

  by macys in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it feels so good to be free from the jdub cult!

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  Just read your bio..... pictures or it didnt happen!!

  On a serious side though... I had a buddy whos parents converted when he was about 14 or 15 years old. Even as a born in myself i remember thinking how much that would suck to have all the cool things that worldly kids had and then to lose them just like that. He bought into it though and is still a card carrying member. Glad you were able to gtfo.

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  Plea to Governing Body and those with influence!

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a long shot to those with influence at bethel, particularly the governing body.

  if you happen to be a lurker on this site.

  please take into account the feelings of those who are affected or even hurting because of current teachings and policies emanating from watchtower.

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  TE,

  Who cares about the watchtower? They are not going to change. You have one mission... for your daughter to grow up an independant, critical thinking strong woman. I think its awesome that you encourage her to get involved. Keep doing that! Sports, clubs, dances and everything that normal kids do. Not sure how old your daughter is but she will see this scam for what it is soon enough. Have open conversations with her, talk about the inconsistencies of this church when compared with other churches. Have kids from school over, allow her to go to other kids houses. YOU are the man in a male dominated religion. Use that to your advantage!!

  She will get flack from her jdub friends and relatives but thats ok. Talk about it. Talk about what good influences are and what they are not. Religious preference does not determine what a good influence is. My youngest gets flack because she misses meetings and service because of her sports but guess what? SHE GETS TO PLAY SPORTS and be involved in NORMAL school activities. Like the scripture says.. bad association spoils useful habits. Give her some "bad association" and habits like service and meetings will be spoiled permanently!

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