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  Fraud

  by fulltimestudent in

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  if someone commits financial fraud, they commit a crime, and can be punished (jailed).. but if someone commits a religious fraud, western society does not see that as a crime.. on another thread, a poster pointed out that the jws, "literally steals peoples lives and causes horrendous damage.

  of course, the jws are not the only religion to practise religious fraud.

  all sorts of large and small religions make unverifiable promises and ask for financial support on the basis of their promises, which is precisely what financial defrauder does.

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  In my mothers mind it is worth the choice to shun me because the end goal is that she will live in paradise. I can disagree, I can argue with her but she is choosing to believe despite all the evidence. How could you possibly think it ok to ban her beliefs? So unless her beliefs are the same as yours then you would say they should be banned? What part of totalitorian or "thought crime" do you not understand? What thoughful person or group would you propose being in charge of banning ideas? I personally can think of NO ONE that I would want in charge of my view on how the world works.

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  Last night's talk re sisters wearing head covering, puke making!

  by purrpurr in

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  dear sisters,.

  when you are fortunate enough to be in the presence of a jw penis you must take care to show the proper respect for it!

  doesn't matter if said penis is prepubescent!

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  My daughter mentioned this a couple of days ago. I remembered that sisters had to wear head coverings if giving prayers or talks in the company of men but is this referring to something new?

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  looking for video

  by pbrow in

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  hey all,.

  looking for a video i saw a while back.

  it was a computer generated video w/ a computerized voice.

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  Hey guys... sorry for not getting back...

  Thank you for the replies!!!

  The bending truth video is the one I was looking for!

  Thanks again!

  pbrow
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  Fraud

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
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  if someone commits financial fraud, they commit a crime, and can be punished (jailed).. but if someone commits a religious fraud, western society does not see that as a crime.. on another thread, a poster pointed out that the jws, "literally steals peoples lives and causes horrendous damage.

  of course, the jws are not the only religion to practise religious fraud.

  all sorts of large and small religions make unverifiable promises and ask for financial support on the basis of their promises, which is precisely what financial defrauder does.

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  At the end of the day, jdubs do not steal peoples lives. Individuals choose to follow a set of beliefs. Individuals choose to shun family members. Individuals choose to withhold blood related medical treatment. Very painful i know but this is where personal accountability comes in and why it is so important to either get out completely and/or actively work at helping others to get out.

  Religeous freedome is extremely important. Even more important though is the ability to question and rebel against religion.

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  looking for video

  by pbrow in

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  hey all,.

  looking for a video i saw a while back.

  it was a computer generated video w/ a computerized voice.

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  Hey all,

  Looking for a video I saw a while back. It was a computer generated video w/ a computerized voice. From what i remember it talked about the connections made in the brain, especially when you are a born in and that is why its so difficult to break free. It was not specific to dubs. I think it was about 30 min long.

  thanks for checking

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  JW.ORG Channel on Roku

  by Wild_Thing in

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  on my roku box, i went to the most popular channels and there sits jw.org.

  it has a rating of 5 stars with over 43,000 reviews!

  more than the nbc news channel, and more than the history channel.

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  I dont know what you are talking about????

  You tell me what is not 5 stars about this....

  
  
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  Disturbance during Memorial 2016.

  by Ben131895 in

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  two documented disturbances during memorial 2016. type 'memorial 2016' on youtube.

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  Steve... must have got this post mixed up with another one. my bad.

  My perspective is that of a born in and really the only group in the kingdom hall that I care about. I was raised in a bubble where dissent was not tolerated or even seen. If someone had layed even one brick of dissent for me to see maybe it would not have taken me 30 years to get out. For all the bubble wrapped kids in that hall this was probably very strange but kids are curious until the curiousity is stomped out of them. Thats what jdubs do. They stomp curiousity of of children.

  Maybe this was the first brick for some or maybe it was the final brick in the wall but it can help people wake up. You are correct, it may reinforce stereotypes in the cow eyed adults but I dont care about them. (my mother, grandparents, brother, aunts and uncles are included in the cow eyed crowd) Born ins are fucked from the beginning because of cowardly people who dont question what they are told. Fuck those people. If this even planted a seed in one out of a million it was a net positive.

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  Disturbance during Memorial 2016.

  by Ben131895 in

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  two documented disturbances during memorial 2016. type 'memorial 2016' on youtube.

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  Are we talking about the guy who stands up at the event he was invited to, drinks the wine that was passed to him, takes a sip, says a few words and then hands the glass back to the gentleman and then leaves? I will assume we are. He did nothing illegal. Clearly he was not welcome AFTER he made his speech, the speech that he left right after. He made a statement, hardly a protest and then left.

  Effectiveness aside, this man is not getting arrested because he did nothing to get arrested for. When the smiling chubby bastard held his arm up towards the door this man followed said chubby bastard's direction and left the hall.

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  Disturbance during Memorial 2016.

  by Ben131895 in

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  two documented disturbances during memorial 2016. type 'memorial 2016' on youtube.

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  The man stood up at a public event, said a few words and left without incident. Not your way? fine... that is your perogative. Was this self serving? Who cares? Those that choose to be controled will no doubt continue to want to be controlled. Screw them. Could this have jolted the conscious of a study or newcomer or MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL a born in kid who is trapped? Maybe.

  If there were 100 people in this hall and 99 of those people crawled even further under their rock and even one person thought for the first time to google jwfacts then it was absolutly worth it.

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  I finally understood the final hurdle...

  by The Rebel in

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  well the "pious" elders tuned out to be " super pious" and very good at reciting from the " very super pious" elders manuel, but actually " super pious" elders are quite harmless when ignored.. as for my former friends in the congregation, well throughout the ages there have always been people prepared to stand up for truth and friendship, sadly my " former" friends from the congregation proved not to be people of such noble character, instead only capable of giving short contrived speeches about why they missed me at meetings, snooze, and no great loss, as i have found the community outside the w.t organisation positively buzzing with unconditional friendship.. anyway i feel i have overcome all hurdles in my exit from the " w.t" except one,which is how i deal with my disrespectful father.

  even when i was a witness in good standing, he had a pretty disrespectful and rude word power, now it's completely inappropriate.

  i have tried pointing this out, even had long periods without contact, but i don't like doing that as it denies my mum seeing her grandson.. however what i have concluded is that this isn't w.t at fault.

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  We can all point fingers at the "evil" watchtower but at the end of the day it is parents who do not report child molesters, its brothers & sisters and family friends that shun us. The people who want to be run by an organization, allow themselves to be run by an organization. They are at fault for not wanting to think and second guess what they are being taught. When all is said and done, it is the rank and file dubs who commit these acts of inhumanity. The consequences we deal with are a direct result of our "family and friends" actions.

  We all have choices. We choose to be free

  pbrow