KristiKay I'm so happy you took that step and quit the 'study'.
Nobleheart
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using the name "jehovah"
by finallyfree! ini find it to be frankly disrespectful.
im a father, if my kids were to call me by my first name id find that wierd.
we address judges with "your honor" and various other titles, so why on earth would we call the almighty god by his first name?
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Nobleheart
I think that even though Yahweh or Jehovah (or any other more correct pronunciation) is God's name, which he himself declared to Moses, it's not obligatory for Christians to use it for a number of reasons.
1 - If it was meant to be used by Christians, it would be present in extant copies of the NT. After all Christians are supposed to follow Christ's example. If Jesus isn't recorded referring to his Father as Jehovah, I don't see it as a requirement for any person.
2 - If Jesus used the Divine Name (no reason why he would not), but he did not employ it due to the prevailing superstition thus showing respect for the cultural custom, why do JW use the Divine Name frequently even when talking to other non-JWs? I know from personal experience that other people found the repeated mentioning of "Jehovah" as weird to say the least, and off-putting.
3 - If God took out from the nations a people for his name, he surely did not select Jehovah's witnesses (though they claim to bear his name). But Acts 11:26 says that the disciples were by divine providence simply called Christians. Romans 10:13 applies the Joel 2:32 to Jesus "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved". The entire context in Romans 10 speaks about Jesus.
4 - Another thing I've been thinking about lately about the importance of using the Divine name are the last expressions Jesus uttered before dying. In those 7 last sayings, 3 of them are referring to God. He uses "God" in 1 of them, "Father" in 2.
For example: Eloi Eloi lama sabachthani? (My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?)
If this name was vital to be used and God meant us to say "Jehovah" in our prayers, otherwise he would not be listening; this would be a time for Jesus to do so.
Personally I feel much closer referring to God as "Father", it truly creates a feeling of closeness and family affection.
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New Light. Is it new truth or simply new understanding on the underlying truth?
by garyneal ini went to the assembly for half a day today.
does truth change?".
"the truth does not change," she said, "but our understanding of it changes.".
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Nobleheart
great reasoning garyneal! I also hope one day soon your wife realizes what you've been telling her all along.
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"Marry only in the Lord", along with other verses, Jehovah's commands, or Paul's advice?
by miseryloveselders inwt june 1, 2004 pages 22-23. do your circumstances control your life?
i typed the first part and the last part of the paragraph in question so as to avoid the filler.. we too may face situations for which we could be tempted to seek unscriptural solutions.
for example, are you discouraged because you have no yet found a suitable marriage mate?
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Nobleheart
i agree with LonghairGal. If someone is a Christian, he/she is in the Lord (doesn't have to be a JW). Actually I don't believe JWs are in the Lord, but rather in the org.
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UN & Watchtower : link deleted....
by yalbmert99 inhi everyone, someone just made me notice that the pdf document on the u.n. website proving that the watchtower associated itself as ngo from 1991(demand) to 2001 has been deleted or is missing.
http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf i sent an email (very short since they don't allow more than 200 characters) to the un to inquire.
i doubt that they'll respond.i suspect that the watchtower pressured the un to deleted that link.....
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Nobleheart
This is frustrating because JW family members simply deny anything printed, or even saved in the hard drive, assuming it's a fabricated apostate document.
When it was a direct link from the UN, it was much more credible. There is enough evidence, but it's never enough for hardcore JWs.
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UN & Watchtower : link deleted....
by yalbmert99 inhi everyone, someone just made me notice that the pdf document on the u.n. website proving that the watchtower associated itself as ngo from 1991(demand) to 2001 has been deleted or is missing.
http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf i sent an email (very short since they don't allow more than 200 characters) to the un to inquire.
i doubt that they'll respond.i suspect that the watchtower pressured the un to deleted that link.....
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Has anyone who emailed the UN received any reply?
I emailed them but got no answer.
This is really a bummer.
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...Aguest/Shelby is out of the Hospital and Recovering...
by OUTLAW ini`ve recieved an email from one of the dearest people i know,here on jwn... shelby had major surgery at the end of february..she is just getting her strength back... this thread is for her... leave a message..say a prayer..send good vibes... it all helps when a person is recovering... thanks... .
shelby... i`m sending good vibes your way... get well soon my friend... .
........................... ...outlaw.
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Nobleheart
Get well soon Shelby! I wish you all the best! Take care
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Describe your personal paradise if you believe it exist
by jam inthe bible or the jw,s veiw of paradise is not realistic, only.
if everyone conform to their standards, therefor not your.
personal paradise.
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Nobleheart
What Tammy said.
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Dear God...
by PYRAMIDSCHEME indear god,.
i am writing this letter to let you know tonight my cat died.
now i know in the grand scheme of things this is not a big deal.
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Nobleheart
I'm really sorry about your father in law and your cat.
It wasn't God but the Watchtower who led your father in law and many others into a false hope, about us never dying because the end was coming.
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Finished Mystery (1917)... The book that Jesus approved...
by Alfred inso a few months ago, a friend sent me an actual copy of finished mystery which was published in 1917 (not a pdf download... the actual book).
i must say, this was the most disturbing book i have ever had the displeasure of reading.
but i only read it because this was the main publication that was being distributed worldwide when jesus supposedly chose the watchtower in 1918 and i basically wanted to see for myself what jesus saw in the wt that would compel him to choose this religious corporation over all other religious denominations.. anyway, if anyone is interested in knowing the actual contents of this book, here are some bullet points i put together from some of the notes i took as i read the book:.
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Nobleheart
Thank you Alfred!
And Jesus is supposed to have chosen them as his representative and channel 2 years after that. ..right.