Posts by Vidiot

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Watchtower August 2020 Are they introducing new light?

by Listener in

the latest watchtower is now out and they make this statement -.

7 during the thousand year rule of christ, all of jehovah’s earthly children will have to make changes to please him.

so all of them will have true fellow feeling as they help the resurrected ones to combat sinful tendencies and to live by jehovah’s standards.

Vidiot

menrov - "...In other words, it is not enough to please God before the 1000 years, now also a long road ahead to please God even more... a never ending struggle..."
LongHairGal - "...that is the one thing that always bothered me when I was active in the JW religion..."

Hmph.

Makes God sound like a bipolar spouse who won't take their meds...

...no matter how well you did yesterday, everything gets reset the next morning, and you have to bust your hump to "please" them...

...plus the rules constantly change with no advance warning.

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New Blood policy for JW medical professionals?

by FreeAgent in

hey folks, .

it’s been a long time since i’ve posted, good to see the forum well attended & spicy as ever.

this just in from a close & trusted source, names & local places redacted for obvious reasons:.

Vidiot

road to nowhere - "My impression is a lot of stances are taken simply to be controversial. Blood, flag salute, voting, education."

Ditto.

Pick a contrarian stance, and find or concoct a "Biblical"/religious pretext to justify it...

...Rutherford and Fred Franz were fucking experts at that.

Problem with that MO, though, is that more often than not, the stance ends up being demonstrably wrong...

...but out of pride and self-delusion, the architects of said stance double-down, even becoming dogmatic and offensive about the issue if they're called out on it (or worse), to the point where they fall into the habit of crying "persecution" at every turn.

Of course - as I've said before - going around jabbing people in the eye with a stick when you're embarrassed and then whining when you get a beatdown for it doesn't actually make you persecuted...

...it just makes you an asshole.

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How have Jehovah`s Witnesses ever gotten away with being a Tax Exempt Religion ?

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

i can never get my head around this one ?

don`t the powers that be ever really investigate religions that claim exemption from paying taxes because they claim they are a not for profit religion ?.

you would have to be a brain dead imbecile not to see that the religion known as the" watchtower bible and tract society" otherwise known as "jehovah`s witnesses" are nothing more than a religious publishing house that have made x amount of $$$$$ over the years since their inception in the late 1800`s to this day.

Vidiot

joe134cd - "I think there a bigger players that would have to fall first before the IRS came after WT."

Oh, I don't know.

If politicians and the legal system were facing increased pressure from the public (particularly in the woke-slash-hashtag-#metoo era), it might be easier to start out small.

The Org has no "friends in high places" to come to bat for them, they're not especially well-liked, and their offenses are actually genuine...

...ergo, they'd be the ideal candidate for the authorities to "make an example of".

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New Blood policy for JW medical professionals?

by FreeAgent in

hey folks, .

it’s been a long time since i’ve posted, good to see the forum well attended & spicy as ever.

this just in from a close & trusted source, names & local places redacted for obvious reasons:.

Vidiot

It's funny...

...quite some time back, it looked like the Org was aiming to quietly phase out the blood prohibition (whilst going out of their way to avoid appearing as though they were phasing it out, of course).

The world around them changed considerably from 9-11 onward, though.

Instead, now - especially due, I'm sure, to all the increasing pressures they're currently experiencing - they've chosen to dig in their heels instead.

This is telling, because it's absolutely what True Believers would do if/when they...

a) ...are certain that God's got their back no matter what...

b) ...view the secular world with extreme suspicion, and...

c) ...genuinely believe the End really is Nigh.

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Top Ten List of What Happens Next...

by Farmer Jim1 in

jw
friends

what does everyone think will happen next on the back of the coronavirus pandemic?.

these are my suggestions;.

1) coronavirus will have a disproportionate effect on jw ‘growth’ countries like in south america and africa.

Vidiot

I'm no expert, but IMO...

...the absolute best thing that could happen to the WTS at this moment would be their eschatology actually starting to play out they they think.

Because with all the pressures coming at them...

...decline on multiple fronts (i.e. pretty much everything in the Top Ten, in varying degrees) is the only thing I can personally imagine happening.

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Will You Constantly Wear A Mask?

by minimus in

jw
friends

today, it will be 90 degrees and humid!

this morning i’ll be playing tennis again.

while most people have been holed up in their houses, i have regularly played the sport outside.

Vidiot

No.

Sorry, but my crimefighting vigilante days are long done.

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How have Jehovah`s Witnesses ever gotten away with being a Tax Exempt Religion ?

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

i can never get my head around this one ?

don`t the powers that be ever really investigate religions that claim exemption from paying taxes because they claim they are a not for profit religion ?.

you would have to be a brain dead imbecile not to see that the religion known as the" watchtower bible and tract society" otherwise known as "jehovah`s witnesses" are nothing more than a religious publishing house that have made x amount of $$$$$ over the years since their inception in the late 1800`s to this day.

Vidiot

smiddy3 - "How have Jehovah's Witnesses ever gotten away with being a tax exempt religion?"

Some of us actually discussed this a couple weeks back in this thread:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/162383/watchtower-admits-false-prophesy-court-law

To recap, in Rutherford's day, quite a few things about the WTS were overhauled.

To the best of our understanding, the Federal Government had begun to fine-tune a specific set of criteria that American religious groups had to meet in order to acquire "charity" status, and the leadership adjusted a fair number of aspects of the Society's ideology and structure to meet the (bare) minimum requirements.

If anyone was asked, this was - ostensibly - done to ensure (their own) religious freedoms, and/or enable missionary work in harder-to-reach places (not unlike the Org's short-lived and - ultimately - embarrassing UN-NGO status in the late 90s)...

...but...

...I personally suspect that the sweet siren call of tax exemption was the primary motivating factor.

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Joe Biden says YOU AIN’T BLACK If Blacks Don’t Vote For Him Over Trump

by minimus in

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friends

in his interview with charlamagne tha god , he said just that.

you cannot make this stuff up..

Vidiot

minimus - "I wonder if Biden understands how bad he sounds."

Probably not.

Like I keep saying, doofy-ass beliefs are a really easy habit to fall into when you're in a position of authority and you surround yourself solely with people who are never allowed to disagree with you.

Ten bucks says that's the case here.

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Bible canon conundrums

by joey jojo in

this is a topic that i find really interesting- how the bible, in particular, the new testament was compiled and how the jw organisation strives to negate, scoff at and diminish the influence of the catholic church in its development.. here is the official stance of the org: .

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/library/r1/lp-e/all-publications/watchtower/the-watchtower-1963/april-15.

'the roman catholic church claims responsibility for the decision as to which books should be included in the canon, and reference is made to the councils of hippo (a.d. 393) and carthage (a.d. 397), where catalogues of books were formulated.

Vidiot

Oh, that's too funny!

Well done.

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The ransom makes no sense

by BourneIdentity in

if mankind needed to be redeemed from sin and death, why didn't the redemption happen as soon as jesus successfully lived his entire life without sin and sacrificed his life?

if he was successful, the price was paid and we'd all be living forever.

it's all bullshit, or jesus fucked up and sinned, so it nullified his sacrifice.

Vidiot

truth_b_known - "Jesus only taught this -
Love everyone as you would love yourself
Judge no one
Chose forgiveness over justice
Take care of widows and orphans
Feed the hungry
Heal the sick
Be content with the necessities of life
Live in the moment and don't worry about tomorrow"

Pretty much, yeah.

Can't build a theocratic empire just on that, though.