millie210 - “...It almost seems as though they would rather not have another failed ‘end timer’ escapade that people can point to...”
This.
Plus, a devastating pandemic isn’t really included in the Org’s eschatology.
i've been out of the loop for a while so some things have passed me by.
so i'm curious how jw's are affected by the covid virus.
are they still preaching or having meetings etc?.
millie210 - “...It almost seems as though they would rather not have another failed ‘end timer’ escapade that people can point to...”
This.
Plus, a devastating pandemic isn’t really included in the Org’s eschatology.
the latest gb update ramps up the fear of the plandemic even more, and introduces a whiteboard animation that advocates staying at home, wearing masks and social distancing.. https://www.jw.org/finder?locale=en&category=latestvideos&item=pub-jwb_202012_12_video&docid=1011214&applanguage=e.
then there's another 'save the planet' type article that mentions debunked and unrealistic green new deal-esque talking points such as alternative energy, switching to a plant based diet and less manufacturing.. https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/peace-happiness/save-earth/.
Agreed.
Breaking it down logistically, the WTS’s whole New System thing is damn near impossible without either...
a) ...“worldly” elements, or...
b) ...magic.
the wt sponsored zoom meetings reduce individual freedom, spirituality.
the wt sponsored zoom meetings enables ego maniacs, narcissists to have their influence beamed right into your living room.
conversations that were private, personal are now broadcast, forced on all participants.
Yeah, I gotta say, I did not expect the rank-and-file to get even cultier.
I figured it’d be the opposite.
Maybe it’s just the loyalists.
the latest gb update ramps up the fear of the plandemic even more, and introduces a whiteboard animation that advocates staying at home, wearing masks and social distancing.. https://www.jw.org/finder?locale=en&category=latestvideos&item=pub-jwb_202012_12_video&docid=1011214&applanguage=e.
then there's another 'save the planet' type article that mentions debunked and unrealistic green new deal-esque talking points such as alternative energy, switching to a plant based diet and less manufacturing.. https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/peace-happiness/save-earth/.
slimboyfat - "Some of the most problematic OT passages were not meant to be read literally."
I have a theory that this is actually at the root of the Dark-and-Middle-Ages-era Church's historic antisemitism....
...the WTS's assertion that the Bible is actually a single, overarching piece of work is not original to them; the Nicea Council selected the "official" Bible books to be used, in part, to reinforce it.
However, to accomplish that, the newly set-in-stone cosmology required that the Genesis creation narrative be regarded as literal history, in part to legitimize Jesus' primacy.
However, if the Church's loyal subjects learned that the Jews - the actual writers of the Old Testament - didn't view Genesis as literal, it would undermine that legitimacy, and therefore, the Church's authority...
...so Jews were demonized and discriminated against to prevent that information from being widely known.
I could be wrong.
the latest gb update ramps up the fear of the plandemic even more, and introduces a whiteboard animation that advocates staying at home, wearing masks and social distancing.. https://www.jw.org/finder?locale=en&category=latestvideos&item=pub-jwb_202012_12_video&docid=1011214&applanguage=e.
then there's another 'save the planet' type article that mentions debunked and unrealistic green new deal-esque talking points such as alternative energy, switching to a plant based diet and less manufacturing.. https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/peace-happiness/save-earth/.
Calling the WTS "leftist" always sounds strange to me, considering how much the Org has in common with the Religious Right.
december 25, 2020. to selected bodies of elders assigned to the covid-19.
re: adjustments to arrangements for meeting family food needs during the covid-19 pandemic.
dear brothers:.
mikeflood - "Good for them, becoming more mainstream each day. One day they are gonna become part of the community too, volunteering, etc."
(assuming you were being serious and not facetious)
Don't kid yourself.
Any change of that nature is purely cosmetic... at their core, they still are - and always will be - an authoritarian high-control group (in semi-mainstream drag).
Authentic progressive reform is not possible at this point...
...they're too far gone for that, and it would too deeply undermine the Organizational illusion.
december 25, 2020. to selected bodies of elders assigned to the covid-19.
re: adjustments to arrangements for meeting family food needs during the covid-19 pandemic.
dear brothers:.
Doubting Bro - "It never ceases to amaze me how they feel the need to lie when it really isn't even necessary."
Here's a good rule of thumb to remember about the WT leadership...
...
...every decision they make... every decision... is done so with the overarching purpose of reinforcing the fiction of "God's Exclusive Earthly Organization".
the wt sponsored zoom meetings reduce individual freedom, spirituality.
the wt sponsored zoom meetings enables ego maniacs, narcissists to have their influence beamed right into your living room.
conversations that were private, personal are now broadcast, forced on all participants.
Slidin fast - "...When it was a novelty, there were many inane and excited greetings to every on who appeared. it was just awful. Now, nobody appears until the last minute, those who arrive early just sit in bored silence... I think, if and when this is all over, it will not be missed by anyone..."
Except...
...some of us have long suspected that the transition of the WTS into a predominantly internet-based religion was already in the cards, for a whole lot of reasons.
The Covid crisis has facilitated said transition in a way that must seem (to the WT leadership, at least) almost heaven-sent.
the wt sponsored zoom meetings reduce individual freedom, spirituality.
the wt sponsored zoom meetings enables ego maniacs, narcissists to have their influence beamed right into your living room.
conversations that were private, personal are now broadcast, forced on all participants.
hoser - "...They are guiltshamed..."
"Guiltshamed"... I like that.
evidently it would seem the wt sold the rights and will get royalties from "listen obey and be blessed.." this obviously is a trial balloon for what's to come.
kim and mikey alluded to this and i have been wondering why they are planning on spending hundreds of millions on a new movie studio in n.y. and also in australia just for the benefit of the few million jdub's.
well here's the answer, they are going to make money off the royalties from their music and video content selling to other church groups.
They should use all their state-of-the-art studio assets to produce a true-to-the-text movie adaptation of the Revelation Climax book.
It’d be the most batshit crazy thing ever seen.