Posts by Vidiot

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Headship and WT's Changed Understanding

by Bobcat in

i don't think anyone has mentioned that the february 2021 study wt (p. 15, 16; par.

8) changed wt's long standing view on headship within the congregation.

wt used to view all baptized males as being the head of all baptized sisters.. this view led to such absurdities as a sister having to wear a head covering on a bible study because her baptized 10 year old son was sitting in on the study with her.

Vidiot

mynameislame - "...This whole thing is probably because they're having a hard time getting young men to reach out for 'privileges'..."

A strong argument could definitely be made.

Plus, there's a possibility their tax-exemption might be in danger if they don't at least attempt to adapt to changing federal laws regarding registered charities.

Some of us suspect that was the real reason they discontinued the bookstudy in peoples' homes; as quite a number of child abuse allegations involved bookstudy locations.

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What’s Your View On Self Defense?

by minimus in

jw
friends

if someone comes to you with a knife or a gun, would you defend yourself if you could?

if someone tried to beat you up , would you physically engage, run away or just try to talk the person out of beating you up or robbing you?

if you did have a gun to defend yourself would you shoot to kill or would you simply aim for the ankle to incapacitate the person?

Vidiot

Any conversation about the validity of the Org's "spiritual" arguments against firearms and self-defense are academic, IMO...

...the WTS "discourages" that sort of thing simply because victims are more useful than victors.

Interesting fact, BTW...

...polled American JWs' (i.e. the Org's) positions on firearms/self defense (and affordable/universal healthcare) are just about the only things they differ on when compared to the Christian Right.

Everything else ticks all the same boxes.

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Single Pretty Girls that are JWs, have so much potential, but sadly........

by pistolpete in

the pandemic has made the situation worse for single young jw girls.. i'm hearing tons of sad stories of single jw girls who are going, or have gone into deep depression.

with many having thoughts of committing suicide and hoping for a better life in the new order.. the pandemic has made it almost impossible for young jw girls to find a suitable marriage mate.

especially since the single jw boys-men want young, gorgeous, thin, virgins, who look like models and summit to the headship arrangement.

Vidiot

Seriously, though... you know what's weird?

I lamented how few attractive JW girls there seemed to be when I was growing up.

Honestly, I kept wishing all the good-looking "worldy" girls I knew were JWs, 'cause I found almost none of the Witness girls good-looking.

Maybe it was just where I lived, I dunno.

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Single Pretty Girls that are JWs, have so much potential, but sadly........

by pistolpete in

the pandemic has made the situation worse for single young jw girls.. i'm hearing tons of sad stories of single jw girls who are going, or have gone into deep depression.

with many having thoughts of committing suicide and hoping for a better life in the new order.. the pandemic has made it almost impossible for young jw girls to find a suitable marriage mate.

especially since the single jw boys-men want young, gorgeous, thin, virgins, who look like models and summit to the headship arrangement.

Vidiot

Queequeg - "There were also a fair number of well groomed, 'zealous' young men involved who, sadly for the girls, seemed to be completely uninterested in the opposite sex."
waton - "...t must have something to do with monsanto, dupont bayer, the hormones that are the residue of those treatments in our food..."

You boys sure they weren't simply gay? Vidiot

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Research question

by JeffT in

i'm doing a little background research for a novel.

what is the craziest thing you heard a witness say was demonized, and what did they do about it?.

Vidiot

JeffT - "What is the craziest thing you heard a witness say was demonized?"

The 80s Transformers cartoon.

Seriously.

On a related note, I lost count of how many times an uber-Witness labeled information they didn't like as "worldy wisdom".

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To The Australian Government .Have Jehovah`s Witnesses signed the Redress scheme ?

by smiddy3 in

maybe i`m a just a bit more impatient than some ,but the govt.

did say they will name and shame those who do not sign up to the redress scheme didn`t they ?

and take away their special priveledges , etc.?.

Vidiot

Sneaky buggers.

At no point do they mention that technically, Jehovah's Witnesses don't actually have to be registered as a charity.

The only real advantage to the Org being a charity is the tax-exemption it affords.

The grudging acceptance of voluntary joining the scheme...

...i.e. showing their throat to agents of "Satan's World', tacitly admitting that the problem was real and their fault, and potentially undermining their authority in the eyes of the membership*...

...therefore suggests that they signed up not because they "respect and cooperate with the authorities", but because they want, nay, need said tax-exemption.

Just how badly, I wonder?**

*I freely admit that I actually thought the Org wouldn't budge on this for these reasons. Surprise, surprise.

**A rhetorical question; I think a really strong argument could be made that at this point, they just might be fucked without it.

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DPA Blood ASAP

by manicmama in

jw
friends

i am in need of the current copy of the newest dpa blood card as some of the jw's in my mothers congregation are asking about if she signed the latest copy after she passed today.

i am curious as to why they are asking about this specifically and not offering condolences on the loss of my mother.

there has been some shady interactions leading to my mother requesting me to talk to certain elders to request that certain people not interact with her further.

Vidiot

So, your mom dies...

...and instead of "our condolences" or even "are you okay?", the first thing her JW peers ask is - for all intents and purposes - "did she die loyal and obedient to the Org?"

That's fucked up, man.

What's next? "Did she leave the Org any money?"

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'Theocratic Careers' and the Covid Pandemic

by eyeslice in

the watchtower has always banged on about not pursuing worldly careers and that best career was 'theocratic service.

but now i am wondering what line they will take.

let's have look at the options;.

Vidiot

Reservations - "I can’t imagine the mental gymnastics some of these folks are performing, and this time next year, after 2 years into it, I can’t wait to see the carnage."

I think that would be the most schadenfreudy part... seeing the Org brought to its knees by virtually zero effort on our part.

I mean, seriously... watching them fumble around, trying to desperately adapt to the 21st Century and keep their vital tax-exemption whilst maintaining the fiction of "God's Exclusive Earthly Organization"?

Mental gymnastics and carnage, indeed.

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'Theocratic Careers' and the Covid Pandemic

by eyeslice in

the watchtower has always banged on about not pursuing worldly careers and that best career was 'theocratic service.

but now i am wondering what line they will take.

let's have look at the options;.

Vidiot

Reservations - "As a current PIMO elder, I’ve seen first hand a monumental attitude shift with the publishers in my cong."

It's like having a front-row seat to a slow-motion train wreck, I'm guessing. Vidiot

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Canada: Jehovah’s Witnesses challenge constitutionality of B.C. privacy law

by yalbmert99 in

once again, watchtower doesn't want to respect our human rights.

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/jehovahs-witnesses-challenge-constitutionality-of-b-c-privacy-law.

Vidiot

I suspect that the real reason the Org ~~wants~~ needs to keep ministry/door-to-door records has do to with retaining it's "charity" status.

They don't do soup kitchens, clothing drives, or the like, so "preaching the gospel" is their only real qualification; therefore, they need clear, unambiguous records in case they're ever audited by federal revenue agencies...

...because - if I'm right - the Org's financial survival has become dependent on its tax-exemption.