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  Why disfellowship must be eliminated for the survival of the WT itself

  by TheScientist in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this topic i digress about why the watchtower relaxing the rules of disfellowship is essential for its survival.

  many things i'm going to say are not my ideas, some are, the point is, i'm condensing everything in a logical and concise way.. the first thing we have to keep in mind is that the wt's main objective in instituting disfellowship has always been not to lose members because of the damage that a dissident could do, or to avoid gaining new members because of the bad reputation of a confessed sinner in the his/her region.

  in the end, the more active members, the more money to the coffers.. in this case of disfellowship due to apostasy, to avoid any spark, texts were sought out of context that even prohibited saying "hi".

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  Vidiot

  TonysOH - “If it stays alive by making changes that ease the pressure on the rank and file and move towards a more mainstream approach, that might be better than having it die off.”

  But then, it would ultimately be just another denomination among denominations…

  …and in doing so, will have effectively forfeited its claim of God’s exclusive favor…

  DesirousOfChange - “…Being a JW is their social network.”

  …and there are absolutely better social networks out there…

  …at that point, the carrot and stick have become effectively neutered, so where’s the incentive to stay?
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  Why disfellowship must be eliminated for the survival of the WT itself

  by TheScientist in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this topic i digress about why the watchtower relaxing the rules of disfellowship is essential for its survival.

  many things i'm going to say are not my ideas, some are, the point is, i'm condensing everything in a logical and concise way.. the first thing we have to keep in mind is that the wt's main objective in instituting disfellowship has always been not to lose members because of the damage that a dissident could do, or to avoid gaining new members because of the bad reputation of a confessed sinner in the his/her region.

  in the end, the more active members, the more money to the coffers.. in this case of disfellowship due to apostasy, to avoid any spark, texts were sought out of context that even prohibited saying "hi".

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  Vidiot

  The number of core WT believers is essentially irrelevant, if the WT corporation is unable to stay financially solvent…

  …because if the WT corporation is unable to stay financially solvent, the WT religion cannot function…

  …and if the WT religion cannot function, the core believers have nothing left to believe in, regardless of how many there are…

  …not that there actually seem to be that many, if the number of KH sales and consolidations, sporadic in-person attendance, and zoom-in-tune-outs are any indication.
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  Why disfellowship must be eliminated for the survival of the WT itself

  by TheScientist in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this topic i digress about why the watchtower relaxing the rules of disfellowship is essential for its survival.

  many things i'm going to say are not my ideas, some are, the point is, i'm condensing everything in a logical and concise way.. the first thing we have to keep in mind is that the wt's main objective in instituting disfellowship has always been not to lose members because of the damage that a dissident could do, or to avoid gaining new members because of the bad reputation of a confessed sinner in the his/her region.

  in the end, the more active members, the more money to the coffers.. in this case of disfellowship due to apostasy, to avoid any spark, texts were sought out of context that even prohibited saying "hi".

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  Vidiot

  So…

  …not only should we be super-skeptical about the Org’s self-reported stats…

  …but…

  …in the long run, the stats don’t really matter, because they no longer have any significant impact on the Org’s ability to function.
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  Why disfellowship must be eliminated for the survival of the WT itself

  by TheScientist in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this topic i digress about why the watchtower relaxing the rules of disfellowship is essential for its survival.

  many things i'm going to say are not my ideas, some are, the point is, i'm condensing everything in a logical and concise way.. the first thing we have to keep in mind is that the wt's main objective in instituting disfellowship has always been not to lose members because of the damage that a dissident could do, or to avoid gaining new members because of the bad reputation of a confessed sinner in the his/her region.

  in the end, the more active members, the more money to the coffers.. in this case of disfellowship due to apostasy, to avoid any spark, texts were sought out of context that even prohibited saying "hi".

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  Vidiot

  Aw, fuck…

  …I hate it when it comes down to math.

  🥵
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  Why disfellowship must be eliminated for the survival of the WT itself

  by TheScientist in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this topic i digress about why the watchtower relaxing the rules of disfellowship is essential for its survival.

  many things i'm going to say are not my ideas, some are, the point is, i'm condensing everything in a logical and concise way.. the first thing we have to keep in mind is that the wt's main objective in instituting disfellowship has always been not to lose members because of the damage that a dissident could do, or to avoid gaining new members because of the bad reputation of a confessed sinner in the his/her region.

  in the end, the more active members, the more money to the coffers.. in this case of disfellowship due to apostasy, to avoid any spark, texts were sought out of context that even prohibited saying "hi".

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  Vidiot

  Oops, double post.
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  Pyramid shaped table

  by MissDaSilva in

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  Vidiot

  🤟😝🤟
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  Why disfellowship must be eliminated for the survival of the WT itself

  by TheScientist in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this topic i digress about why the watchtower relaxing the rules of disfellowship is essential for its survival.

  many things i'm going to say are not my ideas, some are, the point is, i'm condensing everything in a logical and concise way.. the first thing we have to keep in mind is that the wt's main objective in instituting disfellowship has always been not to lose members because of the damage that a dissident could do, or to avoid gaining new members because of the bad reputation of a confessed sinner in the his/her region.

  in the end, the more active members, the more money to the coffers.. in this case of disfellowship due to apostasy, to avoid any spark, texts were sought out of context that even prohibited saying "hi".

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  Vidiot

  slimboyfat - “…far more describe themselves as Jehovah’s Witnesses than are claimed as publishers by Watchtower…”

  So?

  Are they attending?

  Are they subscribing to the WT belief system?

  Are they supporting the Org financially?

  Eight million, or eight…

  …all the numbers in the world mean jack shit if the actual problems the WTS is experiencing have nothing to do with the size of its membership.
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  Pyramid shaped table

  by MissDaSilva in

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  Vidiot

  All hail the Neworldordereptiluminati!!!
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  j-worg tailors

  by stan livedeath in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heres a business opportunity for someone.. jw clothes.

  mens suits etc--with that discrete blue j,worg label inside.

  order online..

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  Vidiot

  NotFormer - “What about Sparlock toys?”

  Yes, but you’re only allowed to get them with the express purpose of ceremoniously throwing them in the trash. 😏
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  Why disfellowship must be eliminated for the survival of the WT itself

  by TheScientist in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this topic i digress about why the watchtower relaxing the rules of disfellowship is essential for its survival.

  many things i'm going to say are not my ideas, some are, the point is, i'm condensing everything in a logical and concise way.. the first thing we have to keep in mind is that the wt's main objective in instituting disfellowship has always been not to lose members because of the damage that a dissident could do, or to avoid gaining new members because of the bad reputation of a confessed sinner in the his/her region.

  in the end, the more active members, the more money to the coffers.. in this case of disfellowship due to apostasy, to avoid any spark, texts were sought out of context that even prohibited saying "hi".

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  Vidiot

  slimboyfat - “…sorry, I do think it is faintly ridiculous to be talking about Watchtower battling for ‘survival’ at this point…”

  Like I asked in another thread…

  …why would the WT leadership take actions that appear clearly tailored to shore up the Org’s survival…

  …if the Org’s survival wasn’t actually at risk?