Did the WT lawyers try and suggest that the Org would have to deal with hundreds of “spurious” allegations if this was enforced?
Posts by Vidiot
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Article: Pa. courts weigh whether Jehovah's Witnesses elders must report confessed child abuse
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://pennrecord.com/stories/654791353-pa-courts-weigh-whether-jehovah-s-witnesses-elders-must-report-confessed-child-abuse.
harrisburg – after the commonwealth court of pennsylvania dismissed a petition from a group of jehovah’s witnesses nearly two years ago, which argued the confidentiality of their confessions shielded them from being mandatory reporters of child abuse, the supreme court of pennsylvania overruled their colleagues and decided the commonwealth court must re-examine the action.. in a 24-page memorandum opinion authored by state supreme court chief justice debra todd and handed down feb. 13, the court found that their commonwealth court contemporaries violated the coordinate jurisdiction rule – which states “judges of coordinate jurisdiction sitting in the same case should not overrule each other’s decisions” – by its initial pair of separate findings that ivy hill congregation of jehovah’s witnesses did not have proper standing against the commonwealth’s department of human services, and that a grant of declaratory relief would not terminate the legal controversy.. todd was joined in the opinion by supreme court of pennsylvania justices christine donohue, kevin m. dougherty, david n. wecht and sallie updyke mundy.
justices p. kevin brobson and daniel mccaffery did not participate in the consideration or decision of this matter.. “appellant is a congregation of approximately 140 individuals in philadelphia, pennsylvania, who follow the tenets of the jehovah’s witnesses religion.
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Governing Body Culpability
by NotFormer ini've seen people say something along the lines that the authorities would like to/have been trying to subpoena (members of) the gb (in csa cases).
my question is: why don't they?
if the gb are issuing orders to cover up evidence in csa cases, and otherwise interfere in justice being served in those cases, then they are accessories before (and after) the fact, and theoretically can be arrested and charged as such.
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Vidiot
Personally, I suspect most mainstream churches would be happy to offer up the WTS for the legal system to make an example of.
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What have I been doing for the last few years?
by Lee Marsh ini used to be here a lot.
every single day almost.
and then i wasn't.. well let's start with a before.
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Vidiot
I always figured you for a badass, Lady, but damn.
😎
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A special video has been released to assist people who have experienced child sexual abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses in Australia
by jwleaks inarticle.
https://saysorry.org/2024/02/19/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-australian-national-redress-scheme/.
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Vidiot
TonusOH - “…They preferred to come across as extremely insensitive idiots than to admit that the whole system was set up to railroad victims and protect child rapists.”
Well, I suppose that’s one way to fall on one’s sword. 😒
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A special video has been released to assist people who have experienced child sexual abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses in Australia
by jwleaks inarticle.
https://saysorry.org/2024/02/19/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-australian-national-redress-scheme/.
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Vidiot
“…so basically, the fox was put in charge of the henhouse, but not permitted to scrub his own name, so he essentially weaponized the two-witness rule to keep his own alleged acts under wraps, resulting in the problem becoming widespread, institutionalized, and unfixable under the current system…”
This would not have been overly difficult, BTW.
A lot of the stories we’ve heard here have detailed just how severely fucked-up some of the SCA-related JCs have actually been…
…ten bucks says the loyalists put in charge of the “investigations” would dutifully obey any marching orders, not just because they’d knee-jerkly defend the Org against any threat, real or imagined…
…but go way beyond what was necessary or decent, simply because the vast majority of ‘em, as loyalists, wouldn’t want to consider just how deep that rabbit hole went, and were fucking terrified of just how bad it might actually be.
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A special video has been released to assist people who have experienced child sexual abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses in Australia
by jwleaks inarticle.
https://saysorry.org/2024/02/19/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-australian-national-redress-scheme/.
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Vidiot
Makes me wonder if sometimes the GB have occasionally been specifically and deliberately not told some things (for whatever reason).
It wouldn’t be difficult…
…after all, they’re surrounded by folks who are never really allowed to disagree with them.
It’s not much of a stretch to think that some of the less-scrupulous (or naive) types might be tempted to use that as a pretext to simply refrain from telling them certain details, even if only to give them “plausible deniability”.
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A special video has been released to assist people who have experienced child sexual abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses in Australia
by jwleaks inarticle.
https://saysorry.org/2024/02/19/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-australian-national-redress-scheme/.
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Vidiot
Reminds me of something…
…a recent (alleged) leaker briefly mentioned that the Service Department - under the authority of Ted Jaracz - was primarily responsible for the CSA problem getting out of hand, rather than the GB as a whole… and that Jaracz’s name can indeed be found in the Database as an offender, which is expected to be exposed to the general public sooner rather than later…
…so basically, the fox was put in charge of the henhouse, but not permitted to scrub his own name, so he essentially weaponized the two-witness rule to keep his own alleged acts under wraps, resulting in the problem becoming widespread, institutionalized, and unfixable under the current system.
Another professed (albeit second-hand) source said that the GB as a whole were never really made fully aware of just how bad the problem was until around 2015, when the Org was required by court order to fully consolidate, collate, and relinquish all the documentation the SD had accumulated…
…and that specific task took a heavy emotional toll on the poor buggers who landed the assignment.
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A special video has been released to assist people who have experienced child sexual abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses in Australia
by jwleaks inarticle.
https://saysorry.org/2024/02/19/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-australian-national-redress-scheme/.
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Vidiot
This bit jumped out at me…
“…The elders are not permitted to hold a judicial committee hearing over your application…”
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Where is Tony?
by Athanasius inon february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
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Vidiot
I heard second-hand that he was “privately reproved” for indeed refusing to go along with the GB majority decision for the Org to follow the advice of rebranding consultants and attempt mainstream reform (or, at least, the appearance of it), with alcohol abuse as a
pretextcontributing factor.Apparently, he’s actually missed by a number of Bethelites, because (rhetoric notwithstanding) he was actually quite nice and approachable in person.
Assuming this info is legit ( and I actually think it is), I can’t bring myself to feel too schadenfreude-ey, despite any alleged resistance to organizational improvements.
The initial attempts to Stalin him out of existence on JW-dot-org always seemed a bit overkill, and I have a hard time holding grudges against folks who haven’t hurt me personally.
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printed magazines
by pepperheart2 inhi does any body know if the watchtower are printing any new awakes etc as these past 8 months or so i have had magazines from four different carts from four different towns 100s of miles apart and the most recent magazines that they all had were from 2021..
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Vidiot
And stave off insolvency.