Posts by Vidiot

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PERPLEXITY A.I. analyzes the Watchtower Organization

by Terry in

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friends

i like to at least try to stay current with developments in artificial intelligence rather than get stuckwith first impressions and knee-jerk snap judgments that circulate among the public who really don'tinvest any in-depth analysis in forming their views.with that having been stated, i turn to perplexity a.i.

perplexity ai's strength lies in its ability to serve as a powerful research companion, delivering comprehensive and up-to-date information across a wide range of topics.135 its advanced nlp capabilities, real-time information gathering, and versatility make it a valuable tool for researchers, writers, recruiters, and professionals in various fields._______________i asked perplexity to give an in-depth overview and analysis of the watchtower, it's gb, and its problems.here are the results:____________.

answer.

Vidiot

“…doing so would require a fundamental shift in their power structures, claims of authority, and core beliefs, which the current leadership appears unwilling to undertake.”

Yes, but I think the argument could be made that they are unable to make those shifts… at least, not with any substantial long-term success.

If they keep doubling down in the face of increasing indications that they are, in fact, wrong, they alienate more and more members with half a brain…

…but…

…dispensing with so many of those things unique to JWs threatens to do the same thing, because they were held up as proof they alone had The Truth.

Ultimately, either option undermines any incentive to stay.

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PERPLEXITY A.I. analyzes the Watchtower Organization

by Terry in

jw
friends

i like to at least try to stay current with developments in artificial intelligence rather than get stuckwith first impressions and knee-jerk snap judgments that circulate among the public who really don'tinvest any in-depth analysis in forming their views.with that having been stated, i turn to perplexity a.i.

perplexity ai's strength lies in its ability to serve as a powerful research companion, delivering comprehensive and up-to-date information across a wide range of topics.135 its advanced nlp capabilities, real-time information gathering, and versatility make it a valuable tool for researchers, writers, recruiters, and professionals in various fields._______________i asked perplexity to give an in-depth overview and analysis of the watchtower, it's gb, and its problems.here are the results:____________.

answer.

Vidiot

Thirty or forty years ago, doubling down would have been viewed as the safe option for a True Believer leadership, as any potential errors would have been rendered moot by the (expectation of an) impending Apocalypse, and their own implied assumption of invincibility and destined victory.

The problems arose as the decades went by without that Apocalyptic bailout, and the double-downs keep compounding.

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Why Punk of Nice as a name?

by punkofnice in

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friends

there.

my secret is out..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dmkui8tphg.

Vidiot

I just remembered Punk’s British, so…

…Sir Punk (of Nice).

😎

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For all JW's: Stop calling others "apostates."

by BoogerMan in

if you don't want to be thrown into gehenna, read what your own faithful evil slave & christ say:.

cj chap.

3 p. 110 chapter 3 - "jesus christ said: “whoever says, ‘you despicable fool!’ (apostate) will be liable to the fiery gehenna.” (matt.

Vidiot

TonusOH - “…If you believe that they are wrong, being labeled doesn't mean anything.”

I can take that a step further.

If you believe that they’re wrong when they label you an apostate…

…that fact alone technically makes you an apostate.

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"Everyone Wants To Leave"

by NotFormer in

a thread about steve hassan re-emerged and got me looking him up.

his wikipedia entry had a point under "criticism" that there is an underlying assumption in his approach that all members of high control groups ultimately want to leave*.. while it is generally believed that there are a lot of pimos still attending, doing field service and giving lip service to the wt, i doubt that everyone within the congregations want to get out.

it's not always internally and logically consistent, but it's been around long enough for enough workarounds to make it tolerable to emerge.. what do you think?

Vidiot

re. TonusOH’s post…

True, to a degree.

For some of us, however, those things were never really much of an issue…

…it was the realization that the Org was more and more wrong about more and more big things, but required you to accept those things as irrefutable fact anyway, with all the exhausting mental gymnastics required to rationalize it.

For some of us, feeling intellectually hamstrung was depressing as fuck.

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"Everyone Wants To Leave"

by NotFormer in

a thread about steve hassan re-emerged and got me looking him up.

his wikipedia entry had a point under "criticism" that there is an underlying assumption in his approach that all members of high control groups ultimately want to leave*.. while it is generally believed that there are a lot of pimos still attending, doing field service and giving lip service to the wt, i doubt that everyone within the congregations want to get out.

it's not always internally and logically consistent, but it's been around long enough for enough workarounds to make it tolerable to emerge.. what do you think?

Vidiot

Phizzy - “…even if the closest they get to expressing it to themselves is something like ‘I wish Armageddon and the New System were here’, that means they wish the regime they live under was over…”

That was me.

Imagine my dismay when I realized that the regime fully intended to continue on after Armageddon into the New System.

For another millennium, if not indefinitely.

I felt sick to my stomach, and I was still, by-and-large, a believer at the time.

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SECRET RECORDING 14TH APRIL:RALPH WALLS: MORE CHANGES ARE COMING!

by raymond frantz in

secret recording 14th april:ralph walls: more changes are coming!.

( broadcasted to all british congregations today).

https://youtu.be/owg4bqj7pd0?si=yvfpkkos_qoy9u10.

Vidiot

Is Rattigan for real?

‘Cause I’m starting to wonder if we’re getting Poe’s-Lawed here.

😳

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SECRET RECORDING 14TH APRIL:RALPH WALLS: MORE CHANGES ARE COMING!

by raymond frantz in

secret recording 14th april:ralph walls: more changes are coming!.

( broadcasted to all british congregations today).

https://youtu.be/owg4bqj7pd0?si=yvfpkkos_qoy9u10.

Vidiot

Yup.

One of the reasons I thought the Org’d have a lot more difficulty with their eschatology as the 21st Century kept on keepin’ on…

…it was very Cold-War-centric, and the farther we moved away from that, the mundane, real-world logistics of getting all the ducks in a row prior to triggering the Big A seemed more and more problematic.

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Watchtower intentionally misleading the court?

by Vanderhoven7 in

seems to me wt lawyers and witnesses cannot be trusted even under oath.. mara mitchell writes.

as far as their family members are concerned, normal family relations continue with the exception of spiritual fellowship.”.

attached is a video on how watchtower presents family members being treated by their family when defending themselves in court.. .

Vidiot

Diogenesister - “…Watchtower became far more hard-line a short while later in the early-mid 80s.”

Yup

A semi-panicked and disproportionate response to the failure of 1975 and Ray Franz.

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I think I know what the GB is doing

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

read:.

but if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘my master is delaying,’b 49 and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards.

hmm... let's see is anyone on the governing body a strict master and a drunkard?

Vidiot

redsetter2 - “…Stephen Lett in particular are really pulling the strings…”

Wait…

…Stephen “that little baby is an enemy of God” Lett?