“On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?' Then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers'…” - Matthew 7:21-23
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multiple very serious allegations against tony and then huge efforts to remove him from all pictures and videos, have to admit it doesn’t look good.. once the pennsylvania investigation becomes public knowledge and front page news it will be very very hard for 8 million pimis.. is it possible that this could be the largest problem the branch has ever faced?
larger than 1975, the overlapping generations or any other ‘test of faith’.
many will feel heartbroken and betrayed.
Recent circumstances suggest that the “multi-billion” label is debatable, and just because they’re tax-free now, doesn’t mean they’ll always be.
multiple very serious allegations against tony and then huge efforts to remove him from all pictures and videos, have to admit it doesn’t look good.. once the pennsylvania investigation becomes public knowledge and front page news it will be very very hard for 8 million pimis.. is it possible that this could be the largest problem the branch has ever faced?
larger than 1975, the overlapping generations or any other ‘test of faith’.
many will feel heartbroken and betrayed.
pontoon - “The all-in-it-for-life will just say ‘praise Jeh for keeping his organization so clean’.”
Yup.
Right up until the very last one of ‘em dies of old age.
mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
Fine.
They can go find some other authoritarian high control group, for all I care…
…as long as the one they were in is no longer around.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/497240/jehovah-s-witness-church-spends-3-years-fighting-scrutiny-of-royal-commission-of-inquiry.
jehovah's witness church spends 3 years fighting scrutiny of royal commission of inquiry.
from article by anusha bradley, rnz.... .
Diogenesister - “I'm so glad Barbara Anderson is around to see the seeds she sowed and all her hard work grow to fruition.”
Thirty-odd years of blood, sweat, and tears.
i googles about self-deception and found many articles about it.
it is a thing reseachers in psychology have studied.. here is a quote from an article that describes it.
and it is interesting because of so many ideas about how to understand the bible.
Kosonen - “What is self-deception?”
Identifying as “God’s Exclusive Earthly Organization”?
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/497240/jehovah-s-witness-church-spends-3-years-fighting-scrutiny-of-royal-commission-of-inquiry.
jehovah's witness church spends 3 years fighting scrutiny of royal commission of inquiry.
from article by anusha bradley, rnz.... .
Micky mouse - “If only they expended the same effort fighting child sexual abuse within their ranks.”
If the inquiry’s findings are any indication, they wouldn’t have enough “qualified brothers” left to keep things running.
this is a hard one for me to write and words can't describe my frustration in seeing this.
from wbko news: .
bowling green, ky. (wbko) - bowling green police have arrested two people on multiple charges following a rape.. police say the victim told them she was kidnapped, raped, and assaulted.. police also say the rape was recorded by a man named colton hogendorn, who was arrested after police found him on 25 chestnut street.. hogendorn is charged with rape first degree, kidnapping, strangulation, assault, sodomy, and video voyeurism.. police also arrested chessa manion, who was present during the events, and arrested and charged with complicity to the same charges.. both were taken to the warren county regional jail.. .
I’ve given this subject some thought, lately, and I’ve come to suspect that the victim-to-perp phenomena is a direct result of the older - and entirely inadequate - mentality and methodology of keeping shit like that quiet.
Civilized society doesn’t really do that anymore… awareness of the problem is now par for the course, we’re figuring out ways to actually deal with the problem, and most importantly, we actually make an effort to help the victims recover from the trauma, rather than pretend it doesn’t even happen.
And the ones that recover from that trauma seem far less likely to perpetuate the cycle.
mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
As far as I’m concerned in regards to shunning, attempts at lawsuits or criminalization, et al are all a waste of time and resources.
The simplest (and, IMO, most elegant) solution is initiate legislation that any organization who shuns - religious or secular - becomes ineligible for charity status / tax exemption.
Federal governments and their revenue agencies have every right and responsibility to set (or revise) bare-minimum requirements for qualification… especially ones that that minimize discrimination in any form… but more importantly…
a) …nobody’s being “forced” to do anything, ‘cause applying for and acquiring charity status / tax-exemption is entirely voluntary…
b) …the only real opponents would be groups and their lobbyists who actively - and obviously - want to shun / discriminate, and those assholes are rarely on the winning side of history, and…
c) …anyone stoopid enough to holler “persecution” just because they have to either follow the rules they already agreed to OR “pay back Caesar’ things to Caesar”, doesn’t look like a champion of religious freedom, a victim of tyranny, or a righteous martyr.
To anyone with half a brain, they just look like a whiny little bitch.
https://www.westernmassnews.com/2023/09/01/jehovah-witness-elder-sentenced-jail-child-sexual-abuse-case/?outputtype=amp.
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I dunno, truthlover…
…stuff that’s a matter of Public Record is a lot harder to refute than popular media… God help any loyalist who insists that it’s all lies, only to be proven wrong.
They don’t usually say outright that any specific incident is false, anyway…
…they just remind any questioning ones that Satan’s World is out to get God’s Earthly Organization and therefore can’t be trusted, and leave ‘em to be too scared to believe it all on their own.
I think that’s gettin’ a bit more difficult, these days, though. 😏
