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  Governing body

  by moley in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  are the governing body really in charge or are they just a figurehead with the real power being behind the curtain .

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  Vidiot

  Sea Breeze - “…They sense that the organization is going off the rails on a gravy crazy train and have no freaking idea of what to do about it…”

  It’s called the “nightmare stage” of “wishful thinking”.

  Not to mention it’s becoming increasingly clear that to weather the storm, the WTS has really no other choice but to - for all intents and purposes - implement authentic mainstream reform (whilst fighting the knee-jerk reaction to double down on, well, everything)…

  …which cannot help but flush their claim of exclusive divine favor down the toilet…

  …which essentially eliminates any remaining incentive to even be a Jehovah’s Witness.
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  Governing body

  by moley in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  are the governing body really in charge or are they just a figurehead with the real power being behind the curtain .

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  Vidiot

  What Big Dog and balaamsass said, with a caveat…

  …the stewards/corporate goons know it’s wrong, but believe it’s True…

  …at the same time.

  They have to.

  The Org has evolved to only allow True Believers make their way to the top…

  …however…

  …rising to the top cannot help but reveal everything behind the curtain…

  …so even if it jades them once they’ve learned the WT’s dirty (not-so-)secrets, their entire existential well-being has become utterly dependent on both believing and the continued survival of the Org.
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  JWLITE

  by Teddnzo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

  they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

  i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

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  Vidiot

  A couple of my JW relatives mentioned not having count time anymore after they got back from the Sunday meeting (one was super-relieved, couldn’t tell how the other felt), but there was no mention of the other thing.

  Was it left out, or modified, or did it just slip past everyone’s radar without anyone fully grasping its significance, or something?
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  January 2024 Study Watchtower is totally flooded.........

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  .....with the name "jehovah.

  in all my years, i've never seen such overkill in any jw publication.

  is the org worried about something?.

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  Vidiot

  BoogerMan - “…Is the org worried about something?”

  I’d be surprised if the Org wasn’t worried about everything.

  😏
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  Has the Watchtower Faithful Slave become the Evil Slave?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what evidence suggests to you that the wt f&ds is actually more like the es of matthew 24?.

  45¶who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?.

  46blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.. .

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  Vidiot

  Has it occurred to anyone that they were never the “faithful slave” to begin with?

  It isn’t much of a stretch to go from “they had it once, but lost it” to “they probably never had it”.
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  CIVILIAN SERVICE

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how many remember when the wts changed their policy on alternative service; changed it to alternative civilian service so jw men could choose it because it was not supervised by the military.

  shows how the wts quibbles with words to advance a "new teaching.

  " flag salute, voting, civilian service p. 212. civilian service.

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  Vidiot

  (following up on my post last page)

  I think it’s why they seem so conflicted about how to proceed.

  Jaracz’s iron-fist-in-a-velvet-glove legacy has gotten the Org in trouble, because ruthless (and especially underhanded) tactics cannot help but undermine the presumption of exclusive divine favor…

  …but…

  …authentic mainstreaming isn’t really feasible either, as the real thing invariably involves - for all intents and purposes - abandoning the presumption of exclusive divine favor.

  Either way, they’re losing their grip on that claim (which should be obvious in retrospect, considering how vocal they seem to have gotten about it in recent years)…

  …because they know - just like us - that at this point, without it, there’s next to no incentive left to even be a JW.
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  CIVILIAN SERVICE

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how many remember when the wts changed their policy on alternative service; changed it to alternative civilian service so jw men could choose it because it was not supervised by the military.

  shows how the wts quibbles with words to advance a "new teaching.

  " flag salute, voting, civilian service p. 212. civilian service.

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  Vidiot

  blondie - “…money is most important to the WTS…”

  True, but I don’t think it’s about greed, per se.

  For the Watchtower Organization, wealth is a means to an end…

  …a wall to ensure that its continued survival is never seriously threatened.

  After all, if it’s survival is actually threatened, the premise of God’s exclusive favor is too deeply called into question…

  …and they simply cannot allow that.
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  Why is the Faithful Slave Now Admitting Ignorance?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  dbm writes on the question: will sodomites get a resurrection?.

  i guess it depends the date that you asked this question.

  here is a screenshot from a video which gives an overview of the changes (new light) on this question:.

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  LongHairGal - “…Anybody who wants to experience the end of the world scenario as described in the Bible is just plain nuts…”

  When I was a young guy, so much of my life experiences seemed to affirm the WT worldview and ideology, which fostered a fair bit of resentment toward “The World”, to the point where I had indeed come to view the WT Armageddon as my own personal supernatural revenge fantasy…

  …not a healthy way to go.

  Looking back, I honestly think Roland Emmerich and Michael Bay movies helped cure that.

  Seriously.

  The older I got (and the more I got to see the vivid illustrations from the Revelation Climax book seemingly brought to life on the big screen), the more I grasped just how fucking horrible the End of the World would actually be…

  …and the less I wanted it to happen.

  And this was before even I started to consider fading.
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  Thought on “0 hours” reporting

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.

  beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.

  the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?

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  Vidiot

  Ding - “…Most JWs assume it's always been that way.”

  Let’s be honest.

  It has.

  😏
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  Why is the Faithful Slave Now Admitting Ignorance?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  dbm writes on the question: will sodomites get a resurrection?.

  i guess it depends the date that you asked this question.

  here is a screenshot from a video which gives an overview of the changes (new light) on this question:.

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  Vidiot

  "We mustn't be dogmatic…

  …unless it’s absolutely necessary…

  …and it usually is.”