i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….
…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….
…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….
TonisOH - “…I think they say that to get people to stop talking about it. If they can convince you that they cannot be reasoned with, then perhaps you will stop and they will not have to deal with questions or arguments that they fear might 'stumble' them.”
Hard to argue with.
I’ve heard that sometimes the staunchest defenders secretly have the biggest doubts.
for those interested in the latest version of the faithful slave.
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from the february 2024 watchtower .
East Germany / the Old Soviet Union didn’t actually give a shit if you truly believed, as long as you paid lip service and did what you were told.
The WT is more like North Korea.
They wanna rewire your brain in the regime’s image.
i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….
…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….
…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….
jehovaxx - “…you have become inactive. This does not warrant shunning…”
On paper.
In practice, though?
🤨
i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….
…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….
…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….
Ron.W. - “My family have told me most violently and categorically that even if I proved conclusively and scripturally that they do not have 'the truth' they will still go on believing that it is 'the truth'...”
Which suggests to me that not only are they subconsciously afraid you’re right, but…
…(like I said on the last page), even deeper down, they’ve grasped that the Org’s continued survival is, indeed, at risk, and that the more people leave, the more tangible that risk becomes.
Hell, if the WT actually did crumble, they might even try and blame you, somehow. 😵💫☹️
i understand he intimated that the faithful slave was not the only spokesman for jehovah god.
he also intimated that corporal punishment was not advocated by the wts.
we're these lies or deception or did they represent the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?.
I seem to recall an instance back in the late 90s or early 00s where a JW dad beat his kid so bad she died (in Chicago, I think)…
…and not long after, the Org published material to the effect that the “rod” should be viewed like a shepherd’s staff, used to gently guide a flock, rather then beat them with it.
i understand he intimated that the faithful slave was not the only spokesman for jehovah god.
he also intimated that corporal punishment was not advocated by the wts.
we're these lies or deception or did they represent the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?.
The most weaselly words any weasel has ever worded.
for those interested in the latest version of the faithful slave.
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from the february 2024 watchtower .
They do seem to like the round-table-discussion-style imagery.
even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.
they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.
i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..
Seriously, though…
…if that’s really the case, I can’t help but wonder just how much the GB’s “Old Guard” is fuming that the GB’s “New Liters” are essentially capitulating to the trend, instead of cracking the whip like the old days.
😁
even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.
they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.
i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..
ElderBerry - “…JWLITE is actually happening in real time…”
We just have a name for it, now. 😏
for those interested in the latest version of the faithful slave.
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from the february 2024 watchtower .
NotFormer - “…Perhaps they fear assassination attempts if they all meet together at the same time… Not being serious, BTW.”
Thing of it is…
…I can actually imagine some of the more deluded Old Guard thinking this.
Jaracz used to stoke fears of a “Vast Apostate Army”.
