Vidiot

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  The secret 10 year plan to save the watchtower .

  by gavindlt in

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  2. scandals

  https://youtu.be/pszy22hzj8o.

  new light?.

  https://www.dadseekingtruth.com/.

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  DesirousOfChange - “…The blood issue is almost already a ‘non-issue’ as a result of the Bulgarian compromise in the late 1990's…”

  The Bulgaria thing wasn’t a compromise.

  It was loopholed weasel-wording.
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  Just had a thought…

  by Vidiot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

  …dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

  …i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

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  NotFormer - “I can't see a Samsonesque self-sacrifice by the GB. One, they're strike me as being pretty cowardly. They're great at having others make sacrifices, but aren't that keen on doing it themselves…”

  I’m inclined to agree.

  That being said, everything we’ve seen and heard reinforces the idea the WT leadership are full-on True Believers…

  …and the True Believers at Jonestown chose to crash-and-burn rather than face the alternative. 😵‍💫

  However…

  markweatherill - “I wouldn't be surprised if the governing body was discovered to have been taken to heaven just as their great tribulation begins… I'd love to see them apprehended at the airport with one way tickets to a country that has no extradition treaty with the US.”

  This is hard to argue with…

  …like NotFormer, the current crop at WTHQ strike me as a pretty soft bunch, but they’d rather gargle with broken glass than make the ultimate gamble, declare victory, and then not be vindicated.

  They could justify the deception as the lesser of two evils… i.e. worth it to keep the spark alive amongst the rank-and-file, and (more importantly) the Organization alive amongst themselves. 🙄

  The luxury bolthole in Argentina’d be off the table, though… their ext-treaty with the US is pretty ironclad.

  My money’s on the Caymans…

  …’cause unless things have changed, that’s where a big chunk of theirs is.
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  Just had a thought…

  by Vidiot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

  …dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

  …i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

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  NotFormer - “…Remember, they dropped the sacrosanct door to door work, their main distinction, at the merest hint that the government might have a problem with it, during the lockdowns.”

  Yup, gotta protect that vital charity-status for as long as possible before it all goes to shit. 😏
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  Were JW Celebrities Ever An Asset To The Organisation?

  by NotFormer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wondering if the rich celebrities that occasionally were aligned with the wt gave enough to the 'tower to be a worthwhile presence within the organisation?.

  my gut instinct is: "no".

  i imagine that the jackson family gave a fair bit, but it was obviously never enough to buy michael the right to be held as being in good standing.

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  NotFormer - “WT words are often weasel words.”

  “Weaseltower”.

  Not too shabby.
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  Just had a thought…

  by Vidiot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

  …dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

  …i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

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  A Reddit follow-up...

  ...this was one of the more interesting threads I came across recently, particularly the OP... I recommend reading it:

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1ao9o36/how_leaks_actually_work_as_a_bethel_insider/

  A couple things further down particularly caught my attention, though (note: you might have to wade a bit to find 'em)...

  "...the Governing Body are expected to say that we are in the Great Tribulation as soon as the entire religion is forcibly shut down over the CSA scandals. That's the exit plan, the final cry of persecution, then they're done."

  He then refers to the so-called "hailstone" message...

  "...the GB are already accepting responsibility that their message will provoke governments to attack them and shut them down. Most PIMI JWs didn't notice this message in the Watchtower, the Governing Body has had this plan for years to wipe themselves out if all else 'fails'."

  And finally...

  "...scripturally, there is no indication of what starts the Great Tribulation. So it's an easy one for Watchtower to flip flop around."

  Am I reading these right?
  

  Is this guy actually alleging that despite the recent and impending attempts at (the appearance of) mainstream reform, the Org leadership is genuinely expecting to get backed into a corner over CSA and close up shop (insolvency via loss of charity-status, maybe?), then denounce the whole world in a manner that's so obnoxious the rest of humanity attacks the WT?

  Instead of "Babylon the Great" first?

  And if God doesn't miraculously bail them out, they'd rather the WTS actually be... erased?

  
  

  I've joked about scenarios like this, but it was never much more than a thought experiment.

  Anybody here think it's legit?
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  Is there a 'for dummies' on Robert Hendriks thread?

  by carla in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  can anyone give me a rundown or send me to a thread on the robert hendriks thing?

  he was recently 'dismissed' from bethel and was pid (public information department?

  ) i'm not even sure i have this right..... thanks much.

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  TonusOH - “Sounds like they are cleaning house. Morris, Hendricks... how many more on the way?”

  Stephen Lett, if they have even a shred of common fucking sense.
  

  “That little baby is an enemy of God” was just about the weirdest, most batshit thing I’ve ever heard him say…

  …not only was it offensive to, like, every parent on the planet, it was also in direct contrast to basic Xtianity.

  Jeezus, the Bible calls kids a gift from God.

  If GB3.0 doesn’t view him as a liability by now, they never will.

  😵‍💫
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  Deadpool 3

  by Vidiot in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  so, it’s gonna be a marvel studios production.. i’m holding out for the following titles:.

  ”deadpool: agent of shield”.

  ”deadpool v spider-man: dawn of bromance”.

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  Vidiot

  The last two were meant as fun future sequel titles.

  Here’s another:

  “Deadpool, She-Hulk, and the Terrible, Horrible, No-Good, Very Bad, Fourth-Wall Multiversal Incursion”
  
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  Deadpool 3

  by Vidiot in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  so, it’s gonna be a marvel studios production.. i’m holding out for the following titles:.

  ”deadpool: agent of shield”.

  ”deadpool v spider-man: dawn of bromance”.

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  Vidiot

  “Wade Wilson: Agent of SHIELD The TVA POOL.

  “Deadpool: F**k the Disney Censors”
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  Deadpool 3

  by Vidiot in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  so, it’s gonna be a marvel studios production.. i’m holding out for the following titles:.

  ”deadpool: agent of shield”.

  ”deadpool v spider-man: dawn of bromance”.

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  Looks like the Agent Mobius rumour didn’t pan out. Kinda disappointed, but unsurprised after the character retired at the end of “Loki” S2.

  “Deadpool and his Amazing Friends” would have been a good title.

  ”Deadpool The Third”

  ”Deadpool, Deadpool, Deadpool!” (y’know, to summon him)

  Or just “Deadpools”. That’d be meta AF.
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  The Future

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do you want to see into the future?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhyi3h7beea.

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  JeffT - “…what my granddaughter would call the upper end of the hottie scale…”

  That’s good, I gotta remember that one. 😏