Posts by Vidiot

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Just had a thought…

by Vidiot in

i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

Vidiot

redsetter2- "...the GB are already accepting responsibility that their message will provoke governments to attack them and shut them down. Most PIMI JWs didn't notice this message in the Watchtower, the Governing Body has had this plan for years to wipe themselves out if all else 'fails'."

“Goddammit, the Trib’s running late, and none of the NWO stormtroopers are burning down our Halls or raiding our basements to round up the sheep! We gotta somehow be even more offensive!”

Oh, oh, I just had a fun thought…

…what are the goofiest, most crazy-ass ideas we can come up with for a ridiculous, over-the-top Hail-Mary Hailstone Message?

😄

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Field Service

by Ding in

for those who are still attending meetings, what is happening at your congregation regarding field service now that reporting of hours is no longer required?.

are the elders pushing for people to go out in service anyway?.

what is the response?.

Vidiot

Mikejw - “…most of the congregation is the same these days on the fringes and nobody frowns on them, except a few die hard pioneers who moan that they don’t have any support on the ministry as nobody does door to door anymore.”

Wow.

I guess works-based tribal status just ain’t what it used to be anymore, huh?

😏

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Governing Body Culpability

by NotFormer in

i've seen people say something along the lines that the authorities would like to/have been trying to subpoena (members of) the gb (in csa cases).

my question is: why don't they?

if the gb are issuing orders to cover up evidence in csa cases, and otherwise interfere in justice being served in those cases, then they are accessories before (and after) the fact, and theoretically can be arrested and charged as such.

Vidiot

It was never about dragging God’s name through the mud.

Years ago, the discovery that they’d quietly reversed their position on “former” offenders being restricted from congregation duties (because otherwise there wouldn’t be enough guys qualifying for said duties) helped hammer home just how widespread and embedded the problem actually had to be.

It was about keeping secular authorities and the rank-and-file from truly grasping this.

Secular authorities because the Org’s charity-status-slash-tax-exemption would be placed at risk*…

…and the rank-and-file because of how deeply the problem undermines the Org’s claims of legitimacy, authority, and primacy.

*I used to think that by now, the WT didn’t give a shit what “The World” thought about them. I have since revised that opinion.

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Just had a thought…

by Vidiot in

i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

Vidiot

redsetter2 - “…The Great Tribulation will be the ‘end’ of JWs, whether it's in the way they expect it (Jehovah destroying the wicked governments and preserving JWs alive) or the last resort of them shutting things down (over CSA or other horrible scandals)… There's no doubt that JWs will always have a ‘plan b’ for everything.”

Hmph.

Setting themselves up to be shut down? Some “Plan B”.

Sounds more like the most passive-aggressive suicide pact in history.

🙄

Makes me wonder what other possible “horrible scandals” could there actually be…

…’cause institutionalized CSA doesn’t leave much more room at the top.

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Just had a thought…

by Vidiot in

i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

Vidiot

ThomasMore - “What they fail to understand is that shunning me is a gift.🎁”

That’s because loyalist True Believers can’t really grasp that these days, more and more XJWs stay away, not because they’re weak, stubborn, or “sinful”…

…but because they’ve genuinely concluded it’s not The Truth, and want to avoid an environment that’s becoming increasingly toxic to them.

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A special video has been released to assist people who have experienced child sexual abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses in Australia

by jwleaks in

jw
friends

article.

https://saysorry.org/2024/02/19/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-australian-national-redress-scheme/.

video.

Vidiot

re. DNcall‘s post…

That actually rings a bell.

It’s been a while since I read Barb Anderson’s story, but I do seem to recall her mentioning that Jaracz was a primary opponent.

Don’t recall her ever suggesting that Jaracz was an offender, though…

…the first time I ever heard that allegation was when I read this:

https://jwsurvey.org/news/governing-body-of-jehovahs-witnesses-named-as-defendants-in-child-abuse-lawsuits

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A special video has been released to assist people who have experienced child sexual abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses in Australia

by jwleaks in

jw
friends

article.

https://saysorry.org/2024/02/19/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-australian-national-redress-scheme/.

video.

Vidiot

Did he have that level of clout?

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Elder Ernest Fyans will serve 20 years in prison for SA

by Tahoe in

https://youtu.be/zq6cnuulvsg?si=ie1rhvguvzjney30

Vidiot

TonusOH - “…And it took an exJW to turn over the evidence that the congregations had…”

That’s gotta feel weird AF for any still-in believers who, nonetheless, would still actually want sex crimes legitimately punished (and yes, those believers do exist).

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"Mark" Sanderson one-ups Jackson's goatee

by neat blue dog in

not sure if this was posted yet but the second gb member has been spotted with more than a mustache, and the first one going for a full beard (at about 3 minutes into the video):.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcgwkgrkh0k&pp=ygujancgymvhcmrz.

Vidiot

Bet the majority of ‘em look stupid, too.

😏

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A special video has been released to assist people who have experienced child sexual abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses in Australia

by jwleaks in

jw
friends

article.

https://saysorry.org/2024/02/19/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-australian-national-redress-scheme/.

video.

Vidiot

“…so basically, the fox was put in charge of the henhouse, but not permitted to scrub his own name, so he essentially weaponized the two-witness rule to keep his own alleged acts under wraps, resulting in the problem becoming widespread, institutionalized, and unfixable under the current system…”

I just remembered…

…there was a particular GB member that Jaracz had a long-standing grudge against. Maybe he’s the one who made sure Ted couldn’t delete his own name from the DB.

Anybody remember his name?

And didn’t another insider once hint that Jaracz had essentially sabotaged or doomed the Org (unwittingly or otherwise)?

I’d always wondered what that meant… maybe it was this.