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  Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.

  why don't the jw's do the same?.

  from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).

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  Sea Breeze - “Why do JWs believe that Hell is symbolic when the Disciples of the Apostles believed it was literal?”

  If “Christendom” zigs, the Org wants to zag.

  It’s practically baked into their ideological DNA at this point.
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  New light on shunning?

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.

  he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .

  what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.

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  Nice analysis, D.

  It’s not unlike the quandary faced between needing to appear more “mainstream” in order to stave off insolvency…

  …yet doing so can’t help but water down everything about them that they held up as “proof” they alone had The Truth.
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  New light on shunning?

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.

  he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .

  what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.

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  jehovaxx - “…Wasn’t there a change in the past about 50 years ago or something like that where they relaxed the rules on shunning? then they went back to hard shunning rules again”

  That’s called “a tug on the leash”.
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  ARTICLE: Jehovah’s Witnesses investing more than $50M on Woodbury project

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://libn.com/2024/03/04/jehovahs-witnesses-investing-more-than-50m-on-woodbury-project/.

  long island business news.

  march 4, 2024. the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses, which bought the former geico property in woodbury for $27 million in dec. 2022, plans to spend at least another $23 million to build an assembly hall and two support buildings on about half of the site.

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  Beth, they intend to govern the world from these places after the Big A… Warwick is intended to function as the de facto planetary capital.

  They’ve as much as said so.
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  New light on shunning?

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.

  he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .

  what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.

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  NotFormer - “…shunning may be part of its appeal to certain types…” (paraphrased)

  What types?

  Fucking sociopaths?

  😵‍💫
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  What has changed since January 2009?

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi, i was df'd in jan 09. have not been in touch much with the jws apart from a few memorials i went to.. what with all the online presence they have nowadays, it just feels like a totally different religion.

  i have seen them with their tablets and phones at the hall, hardly any physical bibles or books at all, makes me think how ai (or the borg) could so easily change words and phrasing in the bible to suit them without making a big deal of it, like 'a new light' talk or wt article.

  doctrinally has much changed since 2009?.

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  Vidiot

  Marvel Studios got its start that year.

  It now reigns unchallenged.

  😏
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  Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.

  or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.

  i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.

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  Wow!

  What a catch, amiright, ladies?

  😄
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  Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.

  or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.

  i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.

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  Sea Breeze - “…The imploding we are seeing is self-inflicted…”

  Agreed.

  When the WTS was young, the majority of members were there because they’d wanted to join.

  These days, it seems like the majority who stay do so because they’re afraid to leave.

  Which is not conducive to a healthy, sustainable membership, because eventually, most overcome that fear, for one reason or another.

  And once that happens…
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  Does The WT Keep Files On ExJW Activists?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it occurred to me that the wt, if they can identify the activists that are currently campaigning against them, would have a lot of ability to compile detailed dossiers on them.

  once identified, the elders of the appropriate congregation could be asked to forward copies of all their membership details held locally.. would they do that, and do such dossiers exist?.

  (there are probably data collection rules governing such things in a lot of countries, but by no stretch of the imagination could the wt be considered a good corporate citizen).

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  NotFormer - “…they don't seem to want hang around for conversation anymore, even at the rare times they turn up…”

  I think even the rank-and-file are starting to realize that the door-to-door ministry is, for all intents and purposes, defunct.
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  Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.

  or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.

  i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.

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  NotFormer - “****This is hyperbolic and sarcastic in nature.”

  *****So is this.

  (😏)