Thing is, you can do that anywhere.
You don’t have to stay affiliated with an organization that demanded fealty your whole life whilst being unworthy of it.
i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.
the org.
has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?
Thing is, you can do that anywhere.
You don’t have to stay affiliated with an organization that demanded fealty your whole life whilst being unworthy of it.
you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
NotFormer - “You mean that they're saying to the WT: ‘You're not the ultimate badass religion you think you are, we're just using you for training purposes…?”
No.
The WTS is small potatoes; secular courts couldn’t be bothered with that kind of pettiness… they just move onto the next one.
Norway did, however, make a public example of them…
…this case basically sent a message to any other churches out there who might be tempted to abuse taxpayers’ funds…
…“straighten the fuck up, and don’t try to pull shit over on us”.
But mostly, I’m suggesting that this served as a genuine test case to determine the viability of potentially - and effectively - kneecapping even worse offenders.
‘Cause they are out there.
i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.
the org.
has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?
In the end…
…it doesn’t really matter whether they crash-and-burn or mainstream to the point where they’re just another church…
…either way, any remaining incentive to stay is basically gone.
i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.
the org.
has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?
Phizzy - “…we may see changes coming thick and fast if they begin to panic that none of it is working well or fast enough.”
Yeah, no way that’ll ever go sideways.
😏
i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
Know what’s weird?
That murder, rape, and disbelief in God didn’t make the list, when far more bizarre things did.
Know what’s even weirder?
The absolute shit-ton of genuinely awful things on the list that some JWs have repeatedly done and not gotten DFed for.
i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.
the org.
has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?
LongHairGal - “…When you talk about a ‘compassionate fellowship’ you couldn’t possibly mean some of the older die-hards in the religion!”
I never said they’d like it.
I suggested they might’ve found it acceptable…
…i.e. there’d be very little in it that directly contradicted any of the core tenets of their belief system, whilst giving the appearance of lightening up, in order to meet certain short-term survival needs.
They frame every decision as a “loving provision”. This would fit that MO, even if they didn’t actually mean it.
i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.
the org.
has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?
“Ten bucks says the outside consultants told them precisely that, and managed to do so in a manner that the Org found ideologically acceptable.“
Like, maybe something along the lines of…
…if the End Times actually happened, a more compassionate fellowship has a way higher survival probability than a judgmental clique preoccupied with sexual purity.
you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
Halcon - “…The sisters wearing pants and guys allowed to have beards now is going to change the sexual dynamic in a considerable way…”
Yup.
😏
i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
Red hasn’t stated that these are set in stone, they’re simply on the table.
If reforms like this were implemented, the WTS would never spell it out explicitly this way to the congregations…
…it’d be detailed confidentially in a new version of the elders’ manual, and framed in more of an “avoid disfellowshipping too much”-type context.
It actually dovetails a bit with hints from other alleged leakers…
…that the current crop of GBers are less concerned with moral or ideological “purity”, and more preoccupied with the rank-and-file doing whatever the fuck they’re told, in order to keep the train from derailing.
i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.
the org.
has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?
Phizzy - “I was wondering that, if they perhaps have realised they need to retain JW's, and perhaps make a few converts, QUICKLY because if they don't, in a short while they would face a massive Cash Flow problem.”
Ten bucks says the outside consultants told them precisely that, and managed to do so in a manner that the Org found ideologically acceptable.