AWHhhh crap. This changes everything....huh where am I?? As I said in another posting... There is A few humble men left as elders but in reality with much to be humble about.....
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Some observations from the KM Elder School I wanted to share with you.
by miseryloveselders inmy school was a couple weeks back, and it was interesting to a degree.
to be honest with you, it reminded me of a police crime scene investigation with yellow tape.
what i mean is, in one respect it was business as usual.
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Somebody bite on the **Daniel 5:25 NWT-Cross Reference Why Half Shekel? Not half mene?**
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Leolaia you have a pm
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Who is Otto Eisenfelt? No search brings up his name?? Where is your reference for the society using him as the source for half shekel rendering?
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"But Ezekiel 45:12 shows that Jews in the Babylonian captivity recognized that the mina equalled 60 shekels or 1200 gerahs."
At a later time
p. 197 BABYLONIAN TALMUD (Sancino)
Should one who sells at cost be called a merchant? Therefore said R. Hisda: Samuel
took as a basis for his decision the following verse [Ezek. xlv. 12]: "And the shekel shall be
twenty gerahs: (in pieces of) twenty shekels, five and twenty shekels, fifteen shekels, shall be
your maneh." Was, then, a maneh sixty shekels, which makes two hundred and forty zuz?
Therefore from this verse may be inferred three things: (a) That the maneh of the sanctuary was
in value twice as much as the common shekel; (b) that it is allowed to increase a sixth, but not
more; and (c) that the sixth may be added even from outside (e.g., to add ten to fifty, so that the
sixth may be reckoned after being added, as the maneh of Ezekiel is sixty shekels, while a
maneh in general contains twenty-five shekels). Note value altered in Ezekiels time to up the 50 shekels to 60 shekels.
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Somebody bite on the **Daniel 5:25 NWT-Cross Reference Why Half Shekel? Not half mene?**
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My terminology was off by saying babylonian money, more like (Aramaic/Hebrew) but what about the rest of the items? Although known in babylonian circles or terminology at the time.
the early reference was
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Curious Confused - Another One for you
by truthlover inthe new numbers for the annointed are out -- 11,202 - up again this year - is there any buzz as to why this is happening?.
with all the old guard gb gone now with bro barr's death - we should never be at this point in time -- does this concern you?.
tl.
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curiousconfused you have a pm
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Somebody bite on the **Daniel 5:25 NWT-Cross Reference Why Half Shekel? Not half mene?**
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Hebrew Weights. Common Babylonian verbage at the time of Daniel? You tell me?
Archaeological evidence suggests that a shekel weighed approximately 11.4 g (0.403 oz avdp; 0.367 oz t).
Using this as a basis, the chart that follows sets forth the relationship of the Hebrew weights and their approximate modern equivalent.
Weights
Modern Equivalent
1 gerah = 1⁄20 shekel 0.57 g (0.01835 oz t)
1 bekah
(half shekel) = 10 gerahs 5.7 g (0.1835 oz t)
1 shekel = 2 bekahs 11.4 g (0.367 oz t)
1 mina
(maneh) = 50 shekels 570 g (18.35 oz t)
1 talent = 60 minas 34.2 kg (75.5 lb avdp;
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Thanks for starting it off. What has my focus is the Babylonian currency.
The three words were common ones in the Chaldaic language, but they also were words used to describe units of Babylonian money. The base unit of their ancient monetary system was the gerah. Twenty of these gerahs formed one shekel [or, tekel]. One thousand gerahs made a Minah [or, Mena]. While there was no coin known as a Peres or Upharsin [the plural of Peres], the word meaning division was used as we use the word half in much the same manner as we refer to a half dollar. It referred to a half Minah(* see below), being equal to 500 gerahs. Treating these words as monetary units, then, we find:
Mena 1000 gerahs
Mena 1000 gerahs
Tekel 20 gerahs
Upharsin 500 gerahs
Total 2520 gerahstimes of the Gentiles happens to be 2,520 ?
Dan. 5:25-28
Insight Vol. II, page 1178
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Missing references in CD
by peacefulpete inanother thread asked regarding references that have fallen from the wt cd and i recalled an interesting example that i recognized years ago.
when the first cd came out i and an elder looked up romans 2:16 and found at least 2 articles, maybe 3, that used the passage to say that some nonjws might be saved at armagedon if they acted conscienciously and had limited knowledge of the wt message.
both were 70's awakes if i remember right.
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I think there are compatibility programs available allowing older software to be run in it. You would have to check into it. Perhaps a search like
running win98 or win95 files in Windows 7
for ex.
this article looks like it walks you through the steps to run these types of earlier programs on newer operating systems.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-windows-vista-compatibility-mode/