There was a story written by someone ( I think a man) about what life in "the new order" would be like maybe 20-50 years ago. It talked about horrible things...like squads looking for sinners and elders talking about waiting for people to just kill each other and they wouldn't have to worry about them then...Does anyone know the title of it??? Is it still available?? Who wrote it?
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Looking for Old story about the New Order
by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat inthere was a story written by someone ( i think a man) about what life in "the new order" would be like maybe 20-50 years ago.
it talked about horrible things...like squads looking for sinners and elders talking about waiting for people to just kill each other and they wouldn't have to worry about them then...does anyone know the title of it???
who wrote it?.
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Will Paradise Earth eventually turn into a fascist like government?
by I_love_Jeff inthere is truly potentiality.
jehovah's witnesses always say that jehovah will take care of, in other words destroy, the sinful people like homosexuals, pedophiles, thieves ect.
subconsciously they themselves want to do the destroying.
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There was a story written by someone ( I think a man) about what life in "the new order" would be like maybe 20-50 years ago. It talked about horrible things...like squads looking for sinners and elders talking about waiting for people to just kill each other and they wouldn't have to worry about them then...Does anyone know the title of it??? Is it still available??
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You are welcome
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Check this out- JW Car Lot
by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat inhttp://www.circuitvehicles.com/home/.
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*** w84 11/15 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***
Questions From Readers
? Why do children of Jehovah’s Witnesses not do holiday-oriented classwork, since other students carry out such assignments regardless of their religion?
Jehovah’s Witnesses encourage their children to be diligent and cooperative students in school. But they feel it is incompatible with the family’s deep-seated religious convictions for their children to engage in classwork based on holidays that they do not celebrate.
Public schools are open to all children, regardless of whether their families worship at a church, synagogue or temple, or have no religion. Sometimes class assignments are linked to a religious or national holiday that most people in the community celebrate. For instance, in many lands classwork during December incorporates Christmas music or art. Students from Jewish, Hindu or other non-Christian families may not celebrate Christmas at home. Still, some of them feel that they can sing holiday songs or draw pictures of Santa Claus, Christmas trees, and the like. They might reason that they do so objectively, while not celebrating Christmas.
Other students ask to be excused from such holiday work. Jewish students might do so because of what Jehovah God commanded ancient Israel. “When you enter the land that the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not learn to imitate the abhorrent practices of those nations.” “Do not inquire about their gods, saying, ‘How did those nations worship their gods? I too will follow those practices.’ You shall not act thus toward the LORD your God.”
As a specific example (which has been misapplied to decorating a Christmas tree but actually refers to making an idol), Jehovah said: “It is the work of a craftsman’s hands. He cuts down a tree in the forest with an ax, he adorns it with silver and gold, he fastens it with nails and hammer.” That was not to be viewed as a mere artistic effort. Jehovah pointedly commanded: “Do not learn to go the way of the nations.”
Children of Jehovah’s Witnesses go to school because they want to obtain a reasonable education. A teacher, perhaps as an art exercise in the winter, might ask all students to draw a scene or work on some other project involving deer, snow and fir trees. If this was simply an art exercise and was not connected with Christmas, few Witness parents would probably object. But Jehovah’s Witnesses feel conscientiously obliged to abstain from school activities that conflict with their Bible-based understanding of God’s will. They seek to apply in their lives what Jesus said: “God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.” (John 4:24) So if the assignment called upon the students to share in unbiblical holiday activities, Witnesses would abstain even if this puzzled others with a different viewpoint. But, in accord with freedom of religion and their desire to be good students, Jehovah’s Witnesses may ask to do an alternative exercise that would not have religious aspects.—Compare 1 Peter 4:3, 4.
Many considerate schoolteachers have appreciated receiving the clear explanation of such matters presented in the brochure School and Jehovah’s Witnesses. In part, this helpful publication says: “Jehovah’s Witnesses for conscientious reasons do not take any part in these holiday activities—whether it be singing, playing music, acting in plays, marching in parades, drawing pictures, attending parties, eating and drinking, and so forth. Yet, at the same time, we do not object to others celebrating such holidays nor try to hinder them. We appreciate it very much when teachers kindly excuse our children from participation in all activities that in any way commemorate these holidays.”—Page 21.
[Footnotes]
Deuteronomy 18:9; 12:30, 31; Jeremiah 10:2-4, The Holy Scriptures, A New Translation, by The Jewish Publication Society of America.
Deuteronomy 18:9; 12:30, 31; Jeremiah 10:2-4, The Holy Scriptures, A New Translation, by The Jewish Publication Society of America.
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3rd or 4th revision of Bible Teach Book???????
by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat innote changes below.... note that the changes to this edition are far more extensive than the previous two sets of changes.. all revisions and page numbers are for standard sized english-language editions.. changes from 2009 edition to 2012 edition bible teach.
page 1 (title page/publishers' page):.
old:2009 printing.
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Note changes below...
Note that the changes to this edition are far more extensive than the previous two sets of changes.
All revisions and page numbers are for standard sized English-language editions.
Changes from 2009 edition to 2012 edition Bible Teach
Page 1 (Title Page/Publishers' Page):
Old:2009 Printing
New:2012 Printing
"Unless otherwise indicated, Scripture quotations are from the modern-language New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures with References" now has a period at the end.
Photo Credits: Removed the following credits
Page 13: Universe: Courtesy of Anglo-Australian Observatory, photograph by David Malin
Page 126: Fetus: Dr. G. Moscoso/Photo Researchers, Inc.
Page 155: Top left background: Ernst Haas, Trans globe Agency, Hamburg
Page 165: Universe: Courtesy of ROE/Anglo-Australian Observatory, photograph by David Malin
Page 13, picture:
Universe background is now blue sky instead of stars.
Page 23, par.13:
Old: Details were given to show just how this would happen.
New: Details were given to show just how the city would be conquered.
Page 32, par.12:
Old: Of course, Jehovah is the Almighty God, the Creator of the marvelous universe.
New: Of course, Jehovah is the almighty God, the Creator of the marvelous universe.
Note that "almighty" is no longer capitalized.
Page 55, par. 20:
Old: Jesus himself said: He that exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life. (John 3:36)
New: Regarding Jesus, it is said: He that exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life. (John 3:36)
This is in reference to John 3:36. This is a correction, as that verse is narration rather than a quotation.
Page 83, picture:
"Woe to the earth" illustration is completely different from old illustration.
Page 84, par. 22:
Old: Acts 2:32-34
New: Acts 2:32-35
Page 84, par. 23:
Old: During the 19 th century, sincere Bible students calculated that the waiting period would end in 1914. (Regarding this date, see the Appendix, pages 215-18.) World events that began in 1914 confirm that the calculation of these sincere Bible students was correct.
New: During the 19 th and 20 th centuries, sincere Bible students progressively discerned that the waiting period would end in 1914. (Regarding this date, see the Appendix, pages 215-18.) World events that began in 1914 confirm that the understanding of these sincere Bible students was correct.
Page 86, heading:
Old: What does Gods Word say people would be like in the last days? (CM-my 2011 printing- God's ... "the last days"?)
New: What does Gods Word say people would be like in the last days?
Note the moved quotation mark.
Page 89, par. 8:
Old: According to the U.S. Geological Survey, since 1990 alone an averages of 17 earthquakes per year have been powerful enough to damage buildings and crack the ground. And on an average, earthquakes strong enough to cause total destruction of buildings have occurred yearly. Another source states: Earthquakes have claimed hundreds of thousands of lives in the last 100 years and improvements in technology have only slightly reduced the death toll.
New: According to the U.S. Geological Survey, an average of 19 major earthquakes are expected per year. These are powerful enough to damage buildings and crack the ground. And on an average, earthquakes strong enough to cause total destruction of buildings have occurred yearly. Available records show that earthquakes have claimed over two million lives since 1900. One source states: Improvements in technology have only slightly reduced the death toll.
Page 100, par. 8:
Old: They put themselves on the side of the Devil, who became the ruler of the demons. Matthew 9:34.
New: They had put themselves on the side of the Devil, who thus became the ruler of the demons. Matthew 9:34.
Page 109, par. 11:
Old: In effect, they said: "We do not need Jehovah as our Ruler. We can decide for ourselves what is right and what is wrong."
New: In effect, they said: 'We do not need Jehovah as our Ruler. We can decide for ourselves what is right and what is wrong.'
Note the change to single quotes instead of the double quotes above. This is more accurate since the phrase is not a direct quote.
Page 122, box:
Old: Galatians 5:20 (CM- This must be under VIOLENCE, because verses 20, 21 are under SPIRITISM already.)
New: Galatians 5:20, 21
Page 126, picture:
Fetus in picture is younger than fetus in old picture.
Page 134, subheading:
Old: Divine Origin of Human Family
New: Divine Origin of the Family
Page 155, picture:
Picture of praying woman is replaced with solid background color.
Page 207, par 2:
Old: The Bible uses leaven as a symbol of sin or corruption.
New: The Bible often uses leaven as a symbol of sin or corruption.
Page 209, par 3:
Old: At that moment, Rachel lost her life.
New: At that time, Rachel lost her life.
Page 212, par 3:
Old: Unlike any literal burial site, which can hold only a limited number of the dead, "Sheol and the place of destruction themselves do not get satisfied." (Proverbs 27:20) Sheol never becomes full.
New: Unlike any literal burial site, which can hold only a limited number of the dead, 'Sheol does not get satisfied.' (Proverbs 27:20) That is, Sheol never becomes full.
Also note the change to single quotes.
Page 219, par 1:
Old: And the apostle Paul specifically mentions "the Lord Jesus" and "his powerful angels." (2 Thessalonians 1:7; Matthew 16:27; 24:31; 1 Peter 3:22) So the Bible speaks of both Michael and "his angels" and Jesus and "his angels." (Matthew 13:41)
New: And the apostle Paul specifically mentions the Lord Jesus and his powerful angels. (2 Thessalonians 1:7) So the Bible speaks of both Michael and Jesus.
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Questions from Readers ... In light of the new understanding of the Faithful and Discreet Slave, is it appropriate to refer to C.T. Russell as Brother Russell?
by mindnumbed inin light of the new understanding of the faithful and discreet slave, is it appropriate to refer to c.t.
russell as brother russell?.
in the past, some well meaning ones took it upon themselves to refer to c.t.
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Questions from Readers ... In light of the new understanding of the Faithful and Discreet Slave, is it appropriate to refer to C.T. Russell as Brother Russell?
by mindnumbed inin light of the new understanding of the faithful and discreet slave, is it appropriate to refer to c.t.
russell as brother russell?.
in the past, some well meaning ones took it upon themselves to refer to c.t.
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A JW apologist writes about VAT 4956
by VM44 ina jw wrote the following in an attempt to discredit the evidence provided by vat 4956. comments on the author's logic would be appreciated.
does vat 4956 prove 587?.
many point to vat 4956 as proof that jerusalem was desolated in 587bce.
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No. I believe it is a look at tablets pertaining to 500 bce era. ??
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A JW apologist writes about VAT 4956
by VM44 ina jw wrote the following in an attempt to discredit the evidence provided by vat 4956. comments on the author's logic would be appreciated.
does vat 4956 prove 587?.
many point to vat 4956 as proof that jerusalem was desolated in 587bce.
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Dear Ann,
I am relatively new to this board. Irving Finkel ( German/Jew I believe ) has been the curator or assistant curator of the British Meseum's collection of clay tablets from Mesopotamia. I am trying to aquire all of his papers and works. He is a specialist in ancient magic and medicine in the region. He is often credited or quoted from, in others works as well. My interest on his projects in literature, medicine and magic described in cuneiform inscriptions opened up some possibilities in my opinion, to relative dating parameters. Some ceremonies or medical practices came about during certain periods. So in short it seems possible to me that these can be evaluated along with all the other methods used for dating. No one (scholars) ever talks about this except in broad terms with respect to dating, and mostly about only this genre. I have not posted on your threads before to my knowledge. I crossed horns on a few subjects with poster Lailola (spelling ??) several years ago on other boards and learned a lot. Doug Mason's work has helped me on some subjects as well. I have so much to learn. One and a half years ago now Rolf Furuli mentioned Finkel was looking at these tablets and might publish? So I have been expecting to see something one of these days. My guess is that he is working with a team and on broader subject material than just our discussion.