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  February 13, 2017 BOE Re: Memorial and Special Talk

  by wifibandit in

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  2. beliefs

  february 13, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: memorial and special talk.

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  krismalone

  What arrogant bs!

  Convey the love of the GB?!

  Glorifying these delusional false prophets.
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  Very intresting

  by pepperheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi on the jw broadcast site they have about 5 days ago put up a special video about how people should fogive and if they dont they will become bitter.

  do you think the watchtower know how many court cases around the world they have got coming up this coming year .

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  krismalone

  WT preaching forgive and forget? Doublespeak and hypocrisy sneaking it's ugly head again.

  1. Every branch office has a "service department" where they oversee the disfellowshipping of those that they decide not to forgive. The records of their sins are filed and saved in that department indefinitely. This dept also helps elders with the disfellowshipping process. Is this showing forgiveness and forgetfulness?

  2. Any JW that speaks about the hypocrisy and double standards of the WT are disfellowshipped and their reputation disgraced.

  3. JW's are instructed to shun and treat as dead any former member that no longer agrees with the arbitrary doctrines & policies of the Organization.

  4. Congregations have a "judicial committee cases" file where records of Disfellowshippings and Reproofs are saved indefinitely.

  5. The WT continues vilifying other religions as hypocritical, they also vilify the C.T. Russel's wife Maria and they continue their abusive one sided denunciation of the 4 directors that were against having 1 leader in JF Rutherford. BTW Rutherford called the police on the 4 majority members of the Board of directors.

  6. Former members that have realized that this religion is a complete scam and ran by delusional men pretending to be the Apostles of Christ in our day are called Apostates, mentally diseased, proud, haughty and JW's are told not to even say Hi to them.

  Are these examples of someone practicing forgiveness & forgetfulness?

  It makes them look good on paper by urging the rank & file to forgive and forget but they (GB) do the opposite in practice.

  I think they are pushing this BS as there are many abuse victims suing the WT and exposing their abuser.
  
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  Has anyone else seen this video on JW Broadcasting?

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was checking out the website to see what the february broadcast was all about before i watched it with my jw wife.. on the front page was this video.... https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodbible/pub-jwbai_201607_1_video.

  i watched it and pretended i had never been a jw.. if you pretend you don't understand their particular language it makes for a interesting (if not vague) watch.. btw i've seen several of the actors before.

  jw version of movie stars?

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  krismalone

  Once I accepted the fact that god doesn't exist and sure doesn't care (if he exist) what the hell we do in our life, I was cured of my Obsessive Compulsive behavior and anxiety.

  I lived in constant fear of offending god and if my thoughts were acceptable to him as I didn't want to hurt his feelings or make him feel sad. This in turn made me to actually have bad thoughts and that in turn made me feel guilty and depressed.

  I guess religious coercion and guilt affect people differently.

  Just enjoy life, respect your neighbors, their opinions, love your family, work hard, get educated, be honest and fair in your dealings with others and as long as no one gets hurt, accept others differences.

  The WT and similar cults produce toxic traits in humans.
  

  I have never been happier since reaching those conclusions.
  
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  April 2017 Study Watchtower encourages you to defy The Society !

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  at least, that is how i see it... the article "the judge of all the earth always does what is right".

  paragraph 6 & 7 .

  6 consider the experience of willi diehl.

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  krismalone

  During the self proclaimed Judge Rutherfords reign of terror marriage and having children were seen as being selfish, lacking faith and weak spiritually. Although not disfellowshipping offense, but loss of privileges and emotional distress would be the end result. SALVATION p.325 said single christians should not marry and married couples should not bear children "according to the scriptures". EVIL BASTARDS! Read 1 timothy 4:1-5 where demons would inspire false teachings including forbidding marriage.

  Just like today marrying an unbeliever, going to college is not a df offense but is looked upon in a very bad light and as spiritually weak, so was marriage and childbearing. Many oldtimers still hold this view albeit privately.

  Both Russel and Rutherford had failed marriages and wanted others to be miserable as well.
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  No Longer a JW Expert But Starting to Figure Out Life

  by AllTimeJeff in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  consider this an update for those that remember me here.... when i left in 2006, it started a 10 year journey into a new phase.

  no more "safety".

  some people want to be their own person.

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  krismalone

  Nice to hear from you again. I have enjoyed your insightful posts about your Gilead and missionary experience, your lifestory going through the ranks, the situation with your late brother, your wife....all were very revealing about the toxic environment the jw cult produces. When we hear the testimony of those in special positions, it confirms that the problem is not with the doubts or that we're evil and we need to adjust our thinking but instead the problem is with the cult leaders.

  Thank you for your contribution to those that are trying to heal from the JW cult.
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  WT Flip-Flops on Jesus’ Inspection… Was it in 1918 or 1919?... Did the WT PASS or FAIL?

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is utterly ridiculous.... .

  the more i research this particular subject, the more flip-flops i uncover.

  it seems the fds cant even make up their minds regarding what happened in 1918 (or should i say 1919?).

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  krismalone

  How can a rational thinking person continue to believe in these cult leaders!
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  WT Flip-Flops on Jesus’ Inspection… Was it in 1918 or 1919?... Did the WT PASS or FAIL?

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is utterly ridiculous.... .

  the more i research this particular subject, the more flip-flops i uncover.

  it seems the fds cant even make up their minds regarding what happened in 1918 (or should i say 1919?).

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  krismalone

  Great thread. I wasnt aware of all those flip flops either. The bullet points of the Finished Mystery was awesome.
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  Is the Bible from Men, NOT God?

  by the-Question in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those claiming that- how much thought or research have you done?.

  objective or non-objective?.

  ever read the other books claiming to be from god?

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  krismalone

  Just reading the Bible with an unbiased, rational mind convinced me that the Bible is full of BS.

  Example:

  * Earth created in 6 days

  * Contradictory accounts of creation (Gen chap 1 & 2)

  * Talking snake and donkey

  * Beating your slaves ok as long that he doesnt die within 3 days

  * Kidnapping and raping women ok (Deut chap 20-22)

  * Men allowed to have premarital sex but women to be stoned.

  * Poligamy ok but not in NT but only men were allowed.

  * Ok to murder and plunder in OT but not in NT

  Also there is so much contradiction doctrinally

  * Earth to be destroyed.....to last forever....bible says both

  * consciousness after death.....unconsciousness after death...bible says both

  * Revenge good.....revenge bad.....bible says both (read Davids last words to solomon)

  * Jesus is god.....father is greater....bible teaches both

  * Salvation through works.....salvation through faith....bible says both

  Also consider the confusion about which canon is the right one. Catholics, protestants among others have different approved canons.
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  "It is the victims right to approach authorities" The weak excuse used by the society

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  we have seen that the society falls back on the line "it is the victims right to approach the authorities" during all the abuse claims.. they use this excuse to try and defend the passive lack of action in failing to report suspected cases of abuse.. a comparison came to mind:.

  if we came across a person lying in the street who says they were hit by a car, would we say "it is your absolute right to call the paramedics and police"?.

  or would we take the initiative and call those authorities ourselves to help the person?.

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  krismalone

  I personally know an elder close friend of mine who was deleted for telling the victims family that they should go to the police about their son being physically assaulted by another jw. When the elders found out, they went to the victims family to discourage them from going to the police. They told the family they cannot go to the police. The elders wrote to the service department recommending his deletion which was approved. This elder was in shock as how they can print saying elders do not tell victims not to report to authorities yet he was deleted for encouraging them to do so. When this elder called the Circuit Overseer, he was told that although victims can go to the police, elders must remind them of the reproach this will bring upon the Organization. Those elders were not reprimanded or deleted for telling the family not to go to the police. Yet he was removed.

  This shows that whats in print and what happens in real life are very different. All the paperwork of his deletion is kept in the Cong files. I wonder if those files could one day be subpoenaed to prove that victims truly are discouraged from reporting abuse or any other crime for that matter. Also those files will prove what really happens when an elder encourages victims to call authorities.

  BTW: This family did go to the police about the abuse. The former elder moved to another state, I can locate him if his testimony would help or be relevant. Im not sure if he would cooperate though.
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  Death and Judgement Day

  by Tirisilex in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm having a hard time with this.

  what does the bible say what happens when you die?

  when jesus was on the cross he said to the man that when he dies he will be with jesus in heaven.

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  krismalone

  The subject of death is contradictory in the Bible. There is no clear answer.

  For example:

  Gen 3:19 man just returns to the ground ...... game over.

  But then you have the Bible saying that when Rachel died her soul left her body. Ecc 12 says the spirit returns to God. The same book says the dead are conscious of nothing. Psalms 146 says your thoughts perish once dead. Ezekiel 18 says the soul dies.

  On the other hand you have Samuel rising from the dead world underground and speaking to Saul after dying and what he prophesied to Saul came true. You also have Jesus parable about the rich man being conscious and tormented after death. Revelation says the souls of the dead were crying for justice under the altar.

  So in conclusion the Bible is so confusing about the afterlifts ridiculous to believe that the bible has the answer.