Hope no one got hurt. There's a big difference with exposing corrupt cult leaders and resorting to physical violence.
This could only reinforce the cult mindset that they are being persecuted and thus are in the right.
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Kingdom Hall shot up in Washington state
by Crazyguy ina kingdom hall near a small community called yelm was shot up.
yelm is where two kingdom halls where set on fire about a month ago.
i think someone, exjw, in that area is really pissed off..
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Help with article on Watchtower Changes due to Legal Pressure
by jwfacts inat https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/8j8fj9/what_legal_requirements_have_forced_the/excircuitoverseer started an excellent thread on areas watchtower has changed due to legal pressure.
this has promoted me to gather the information into an article.
there is a number of points that i would like to expand on, and need assistance in finding information.. the article is at https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/blog/changes-due-to-legal-pressure.php.
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krismalone
Organized to do Jehovah's will (2005) changed the DF announcement to " xyz is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses".
Before 2005 the announcement was: "xyz has been disfellowshipped".
And before that...."xyz has been disfellowshipped for conduct unbecoming of a Christian". Then during THE SAME MEETING an elder would give a talk condemning the action or sin that was committed by the newly df'd person. That way the whole Congo knew what he did.
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"Thanks for the thought" - how the religion robs people of normal humanity
by stuckinarut2 inso as you all know, my wife and i are not officially df or da.. a small event happened this week that i have to share!.
a family that we were really close to (dinners and catch ups several times a month , go out socially often, play sport together, helped them through tough times, like uncle and aunty to their kids, etc).
the wife's father died.
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krismalone
It's scary and heartbrealing how the Governing Body controls the emotions of their followers. Like a light switch, they can turn off any emotion.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Scripturally Based Position on Child Protection
by humblepotato innews room > legal developments > legal resources.
jehovah's witnesses scripturally based position on child protection.
i am having trouble understanding paragraph 5. it says: .
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Why didn't they report Stephanie Fesslers abuse to authorities? PENNSYLVANIA IS A REPORTING STATE. Yet the 2 bodies of elders, the service dept at Bethel along with legal dept did not report her abuse!!! -
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They have a point...
by James Mixon inlast week in the sunday meeting a sister made a comment and collapsed, a massive heart attack.
one of the young brothers is a fireman and he gave her mouth mouth and according to the doctor this saved her life.
so if she had missed the meeting that day she would have surly died because her husband is not in great health.
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krismalone
Lloyd Barry (GB) died while giving a talk in Hawaii at an International Convention. No protection there for attending meetings.
Australia, a bomb exploded during the public talk. Many were injured and the speaker seriously injured (not sure if he died). No protection for attending meetings.
Just recently (1-2 yrs ago?) Many were poisoned in Africa at a convention. No protection for attending meetings.
Honduras 4-5 yrs ago, a bus full of JW's was headed to preach in an isolated territory. It ran off the cliff and many were killed and injured. Again....No protection for engaging in WT "Theocratic Activities".
Honduras (yes again that country) a plane carrying some 5 elders returning from elder school crashed near Roatan and killed them all. If any one of those elders would've stayed home instead of attending that school, he would .....Surprise!....not have died.
Currently in 2018, Over 8 million people have been scammed and brainwashed to believe that the Governing body are gods channel and that they will never lie to them. Again....No protection there for attending meetings.
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Life everlasting and freedom of the sons of god
by blownaway inwhat is the craziest thing in the book life ever lasting and freedom of the sons of god 1966 book?.
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krismalone
Pages 28 and 29 - 1975 predicted.
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Life everlasting and freedom of the sons of god
by blownaway inwhat is the craziest thing in the book life ever lasting and freedom of the sons of god 1966 book?.
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krismalone
Pages 28 & 29 contain the evidence that the Watchtower predicted 1975 as the end.
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Two witness rule: Stop using it, its not working on JWs!
by StephaneLaliberte inmost jws don't see this as a problem.
they reason that.
just like the jws, the police will not convict a pedophile over the story of one victim alone, there must be collaborative evidence.
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krismalone
I completely agree with the OP. I posted the same reasons a while back on why the 2 witness rule is not worth attacking.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6203461516394496/why-2-witnesses-rule-worth-attacking-bark
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Circuit Overseer Meets with Elders and Ministerial Servants
by accesible in¿necesitan los demás bosquejos?.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dvhuodkcahf6efu2xqxfk6o8ambqe5rm.
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krismalone
Ticketed for dui???
What police dept will "ticket" someone for dui and just let him continue driving home? They would be arrested and the car impounded. Don't the GB know this?!!
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I can’t find it!
by Truth and Justice ini need some serious help on something that i read here on this board, and so i am going to do my best to explain what i’m looking for.
i need this, so i can’t share with my brother who is still in.. it has to do with the organization saying in affect that each member in the congregation has the right to decide for themselves what they choose to do, (that is whether they choose to be apart of the organization without repercussions) and that they would not think of interfering with our own conscience, and that if they chose otherwise that it would be their own decision.. now some might think that the society wouldn’t write something like that, but they did, and i read it, and after reading it, i said to myself “they don’t follow this, they never have.” .
if you could locate this for me, i would be very grateful!.
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krismalone
Proclaimers page. 628 - That section is talking about "apostates" and it gives examples of prominent persons in the WT that raised troubles for the Borg.
At the end of the page it states that these ones (apostates, troublemakers) certainly had the right to believe in private whatever they wanted to. But the problem lies in TALKING to others or spreading your ideas that are against the WT Corporation that makes a person guilty of causing divisions.
That paragraph can save you from being disfellowshipped even if you tell elders in their face that the WT is a cult and the Governing Body are deceitful, delusional, conmen. As long as you don't go around talking to others about your contrary beliefs.
Freedom of speech is taken away from the JW members.
There was a brief time circa 1980 (Raymond Franz responsible for this) where the WT sent letters to elders and traveling overseers stating that anyone who holds personal beliefs contrary to the Cult would need to be disfellowshipped even if they didn't promote or talk about those beliefs to others. A copy of this letter is in Crisis of Conscience.
Hope this helps.