i was doing some research yesterday on this scripture: 1 corinthians 4:6!.
"now, brothers, these things i have transferred so as to apply to myself and a?pollos for your good, that in our case you may learn the [rule]: do not go beyond the things that are written, in order that you may not be puffed up individually in favor of the one against the other.".
read this from the watchtower 2008, april 15th, page 7:.
If we never went beyond what was written, there would be no growth.
But the elders use that scripture to keep sheeple in the jw box.
Oh yeah, the WT does not want anyone to grow. That's what the the practice of shunning is all about, I guess.
satinka
just this past week i went to see a jbub relative that was in the hospital.
there was an elder there from her hall.
he was probably there for support but also to make sure no blood was used.
What was I thinking? ...JWs have no respect
satinka
i think i am but am not exactly sure what it means..
One more thing...I have re-framed my definitions of "spiritual" from when I was JW.
I used to define myself as spiritual when:
1. I read my Bible (I don't read it anymore, unless I'm refuting some old jw belief)
2. I went in service ... Like bookpeddling makes anyone spiritual!
Just to give you an example of what I mean.
satinka
most people in my life that know how frequent i post on this forum find it very troubling.
i have often been accused of "not being able to let go.
" i don't agree that i post here because i'm not willing to let go, i think i post here because i think this place helps other people and i want to be part of it.
I have to keep explaining that I am still in healing mode and it is important to question myself... and learn who I really am...view myself through my own eyes, instead of how the WT sees me.
It's about finding my own identity.
satinka
Lots of people choose not to choose --- out of fear of choosing. The fear paralyzes them. After all, fear is a paralyser.
That's one reason for sheeple to stay in cults. Then elders can make their choices for them.
satinka
just this past week i went to see a jbub relative that was in the hospital.
there was an elder there from her hall.
he was probably there for support but also to make sure no blood was used.
How dare he step into your yard, then shun you!
Where is the respect?!?! JWs have no sense of "boundaries" I have noticed.
satinka
i think i am but am not exactly sure what it means..
Interesting theory, Terry. And I certainly agree that we have to reframe our definitions until we can re-situate ourselves in a healthier new environment upon exiting the jws. If we kept their mindset, we would surely self-destruct.
However, I still consider myself spiritual. The best way I can explain why ... is something I blogged about http://hey-whichwayisup.blogspot.com/2011/03/kindness-of-stranger.html. I was feeling really bummed out about my brother and my two children who shun me, until I viewed it from a "spiritual" standpoint. Once I realized the "spiritual" implications about the kindness of a stranger shown toward me, the entire event taught me a valuable "spiritual" lesson. Without my new --- what I call a "spiritual" perception, I would have continued feeling down.
satinka
my jaw is on the floor.
after many years my youtube video about jehovah's witnesses and mind control has been taken off the internet.
here is what the page says.
Lady Lee,
Are the predators that are following you around ...whoever... JWs???
'cuz if they are jw...aren't they supposed to be shunning you instead of harrassing you?
JWs without morals... Guess it takes all kinds.
Anyway...I sure hope to hear you are mobile again shortly!
satinka
im just curious about a couple things:.
1. most of you seem to be pretty satisfied that you left the the witness world but now that your gone what drives you now?
what makes you excited about life?
deservingone26,
You are here breaking the elder rules about associating with "sinners" as defined by your elders.
You know the scripture about judging. "As you judge others, so you will be judged."
This forum is my "sacred space" --- You being here is the same thing as my ex-husband walking in on my therapy session and "should"-ing on me.
Many folks here have a lot of anger --- and the anger is valid because of the way the religion has treated them.
satinka
my jaw is on the floor.
after many years my youtube video about jehovah's witnesses and mind control has been taken off the internet.
here is what the page says.
Lady Lee,
I watched the three videos you posted. They are truly wonderful!
I did not hear you say you were a therapist; in fact, I heard you say you went to a therapist who had no comprehension what you had been through in the cult. I, too have been to many therapists and most of them were wasting my time. I did find a few good ones, thankfully.
I can't see YouTube taking down the video --- unless someone at YouTube is a JW---or else got paid by the WT to take it down.
I feel sure that one day all their deception will come out in the open.
It doesn't matter how many web sites and YouTubes they take down, it only serves to cause another stir. The JWs are only drawing undue attention to themselves. They are afraid of us "Apostates" now because we have grown in number and we are making a lot of noise! And its getting louder, too!
Anyway, Lady Lee...keep up your good work! It is a very important work you are doing...
Love,
satinka
