wannabefree, please be aware there are m-a-n-y honest people in the world. Believing all honest people must be JW is part of their mind control ...
The more dealings one has with the world, the more this simple truth becomes evident.
satinka
despite this man's facial hair and no mention of religion, he must be one of jehovah's witnesses, cuz surely no worldly person would be so honest.. serioulsy, he credits his parents.
it always irritated me that whenever a witness does something good they have to throw in "as one of jehovah's witnesses ...." as though they were implying they would otherwise not have done the right thing.. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chibrknews-man-finds-17000and-turns-it-in-20110609,0,6950954.story.
wannabefree, please be aware there are m-a-n-y honest people in the world. Believing all honest people must be JW is part of their mind control ...
The more dealings one has with the world, the more this simple truth becomes evident.
satinka
don't you dare try channelling form god.
.
jesus went to heaven, but don't you dare entertain that hope.. any other 'specialies' that are forbidden to you, the lower classes?.
The Bible was written by patriarchs who worshipped --- and channeled --- a fearful diety. They decided to re-write history to suit their ideals, which included blaming women for everything...EVERYTHING
That is my short explanation of how the Bible came about.
satinka
i am looking for your best jw comeback- the kind that makes a jw's jaw drop.
ok, even two pithy sentences will do.. here's one i have used before on jws,.
moshe: " do you know what an oxymoron is?
Terra Incongnita wrote:
Where are you going to be 30 years from now?
The JWs would answer, "in paradise," which roughly translated means that sometime between now and 2041, Armageddon will strike.
satinka
i am getting into this video making thing..... looking for ideas for new ones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh5uj8tyelg.
Great video! Message is clear. Why would anyone stay in a religion that blames its followers for being over-zealous when the organization's predictions failed?
satinka
all i can say is "wow!
" in the 10 years i've been out i had no idea that forums like this existed.
a tad naive-sounding for someone with a background in it, i know, but it's taken me this long just to feel comfortable enough to type 'jw' into google.
A great big welcome from Vancouver, Canada! Thanks for sharing your story about growing up a JW. You are among friends.
satinka
our neighbourhood has seen a debate erupt in the local schools in our area.
of all things, the fundys want to stop an anti-bullying program that the schools are attempting to initiate.
in response to an article in the paper, i wrote a rebuttal.
@GOrwell It seems that funadamentalist religious groups are always pushing for more freedom...in this case they are wanting to attack gays and lesbians. They want freedom to bully and condemn. Since I know how oppressive religions operate, I made a statement about their tactics. It seemed only fair and reasonable. Besides, religious groups seem to think they are above the law because "God says...."
@Snoozy I have seen the Q represented as Queer in some places, and other places it is Questioning. I like to think of them as questioning, since some highschool students begin experiementing and questioning their sexual preference at this time of their life.
The religious groups bullying pushed my buttons, since they always throw around the "persecution" word. Now, it seems they think it is okay to turn around and become the persecutors of a group of teenagers who may identify themselves as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans-sexual or Questioning (LGBTQ ).
satinka
i am looking for your best jw comeback- the kind that makes a jw's jaw drop.
ok, even two pithy sentences will do.. here's one i have used before on jws,.
moshe: " do you know what an oxymoron is?
"Why is reading "Crisis of Conscience" considered by the Watchtower Society to be as bad as molesting a child?"
Actually, some have been disfellowshipped for "illegal" reading, but others did NOT get disfellowshipped for molesting a child.
Ray Franz got disfellowshipped for having a MEAL with an "Apostate TM "
satinka
sure the world hasnt ended yet.
that doesnt mean that it isnt going to happen.. sure, the brothers got a little excited about 1975. they made a mistake.
its still the truth.
Joliette, I'm glad you are able to see through the mind-numbing JW propaganda. You deserve a pat on the back!
Now, you might wanna make some new friends...
satinka
our neighbourhood has seen a debate erupt in the local schools in our area.
of all things, the fundys want to stop an anti-bullying program that the schools are attempting to initiate.
in response to an article in the paper, i wrote a rebuttal.
Oh my gawd...another newbie! Congratulations on taking the plunge, boc!
I'm impressed!
You might want to start a new thread and announce yourself. Not too many people find their way to my threads, I'm afraid...
satinka
our neighbourhood has seen a debate erupt in the local schools in our area.
of all things, the fundys want to stop an anti-bullying program that the schools are attempting to initiate.
in response to an article in the paper, i wrote a rebuttal.
Our neighbourhood has seen a debate erupt in the local schools in our area. Of all things, the fundys want to stop an anti-bullying program that the schools are attempting to initiate. In response to an article in the paper, I wrote a rebuttal. Surprise! It got published!
http://www.bclocalnews.com/greater_vancouver/burnabynewsleader/opinion/letters/122237959.html#
Burnaby NewsLeader
Greater Vancouver
Published: May 19, 2011 9:00 AM
I read with great interest the article in the Burnaby NewsLeader called “Anti-homophobia debate packs school board meeting” (April 29). My first thoughts were, “Can anyone believe there could be a debate on this issue?” and “What is there to debate?”
I could not quite fathom that someone would protest protection against bullying of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transsexual and Queer (LGBTQ) folk.
Having belonged (in the past) to a fanatical religion I knew at once there is only one segment of society that would protest protection of LGBTQ folk from being bullied: the religious fundamentalists. I recognized the spin, having exited such a group—in my case, the Jehovah’s Witnesses. They claim to be a “moderate” religion concerned about preserving their narrow definition of “family”—family, of course being defined as husband (man), wife (woman) plus any children resulting from said union. These so-called “special interest groups” spew hate directly from the church/kingdom hall platforms and even quote scriptures such as found in Genesis Chapter 19 to support their twisted reasoning. For example, they use the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by God as a precedent that “proves” the God of the bible destroyed these cities because the men desired sexual relations with other men, rather than the women.
After leaving the religion, I am now feeling concern about the constant cry for more “religious freedom” emanating from these fundamentalist groups who will not openly acknowledge that they are religious in nature. They turn around and persecute and marginalize human beings who desire the same freedoms to choose their private life course. Yet our modern western society seems to put religions on a pedestal that no one is allowed to touch, lest these individuals be called bigoted. Yet, it is these very religions that are spewing the hate and propaganda that marginalize folks they judge. These religious groups feel that they speak on behalf of God, and therefore are above the law.
Fundamentalist religions probably don’t like to be put in the same box as the Jehovah’s Witnesses, but I say why not?—their spin on family values is the same. How fundamentalist religions treat other human beings will come back to haunt them. What goes around comes around. These so-called moderate religious people do not appear to be heeding their own scripture: “… For whatever a man is sowing, this he will also reap.”—Galatians 6:7 (New World Translation).
I suggest we treat all humans with respect, allowing each individual their exercise of “free will” to choose what is appropriate for themselves without interference, judgment, persecution or marginalization, lest it come back to haunt such self-appointed judges.
satinka