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  J-dub elders throwing a wrench in funeral services for my nephew

  by mimimimi in

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  as i said in my earlier post, my nephew took his own life yesterday evening.

  my sister is a die-hard jw and this religion is her comfort more than ever right now, so she accepts everything they throw at her.

  the elders will meet this evening and decide whether they will allow a memorial service at the kh.

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  (((Hugs, mimimimi)))

  I am so sorry for your loss.

  I am sorry, too, for the heartless way the elders have treated the situation. What came to mind is the FEAR that the JW religion teaches about so many things...including demons, death and suicide....and a whole lot more. Too bad they don't realize that fear is the opposite of love. Does not 1 John 4:18 say that "perfect love throws fear outside"? Their God Jehovah is a God of fear. He wants everyone to fear him. Well, he has a group of followers who do indeed fear him --- and he feeds off of their fear. Fear is how he gains his power. The JWs are a group of fearful followers whose fear Jehovah feeds off of.

  When I left the religion in 2000, I realized the only way to heal was to purge myself of all the JW beliefs that promoted fear. Just my two Canadian cents.

  Donuthole, thanks for sharing your experiences about the victim. He sounds like a beautiful and thoughtful soul who just could not stand the abuse anymore --- and he perhaps did not know how to communicate that to anyone. I feel he did not die in vain. The lesson will stay behind for others to become more aware of the fearful coldness that the Jehovah's Witnesses are now becoming known for.

  Again, my sincere condolances to you and yours, mimimimi,

  satinka
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  They've Called a Snow Day

  by jgnat in

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  no field service in edmonton today.

  twenty centimeters of the white stuff is expected over the weekend, "double whammy to wallop edmonton.

  " our deep freeze winter festival is going ahead as planned, however.. p.s.

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  I snow days!

  satinka
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  My son contacted me... need advise

  by Expanded-Mind in

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  2010 will go on the record as a great year for me!

  in november i heard from my youngest son (a jw), who i have not heard from in 8 years (i am an exjw).

  hearing from him was wonderful enough, but he added to that joy by telling me he was married (to a non-jw) and i have a grandchild.

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  Hi EM,

  Very nice news to know your son has reached out to you in this way.

  I wish you lots of family happiness, and I figure you will know how to make that work, now that you have another chance.

  Best,

  satinka
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  Brotherdan seems like he really DID leave

  by sabastious in

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  he was an interesting presence on this board.

  he had integral knowledge about bethel and the like.

  i am an emotional guy too so i can kind of relate to why he left.. but, you gotta get thick skin on the forum.

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  ziddina

  Not everyone is who they might appear to be on the worldwide web, most unfortunately. Posters posing as men might be women, for example, but that is the least "threatening" of possible scenarios. I wonder when people pm me for information, if it is an elder from an old congregation fishing to see if I am someone they might know, for another example. I figure there are many jws on the forum just "fishing" for information about people in their congregations. If they indeed do find congregation members posting, how safe are the members after that?

  Or, what if bethel sends out differing letter content to different congregation elders, to see what information gets leaked onto the forum? Bethel could trace the information back to the source of the leak, could they not? Spying and counter-spying even on their own trusted elders...?

  I wonder if Bethel keeps lists of disfellowshipped names. I'm sure they do, and I'm sure they fish for information right here on this forum.

  If you can't afford to be without your resource books and literature, please don't let them out of your possession. That is my best advice.

  Maybe I'm paranoid, but I had to say it. It's one good thing my apostate father taught me... that appearances can be deceiving.

  satinka
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  WTS ADVICE FOR YOUNG WOMEN WANTING TO MARRY

  by still wondering in

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  wait, speak to deborah first.. .

  the upside of this approach is that deborah is a real woman and will be able to give you girls proper advice.. the downside is that you will either need to first find a top rate medium (shes been dead quite a while) or wait for rutherfords god to bring her back from the dead (which rutherford maintains will happen any day real soon now if not even before the convention ends).. you will easily recognise her as rutherford has thoughtfully printed a picture of her in the new and bang up to date children book.. unfortunately if you dont live in the usa you will need to telephone her, which thankfully has recently been invented.

  expect to hang on the line a while as she will be very busy playing her agony aunt role for so many jws worldwide all seeking her advice, but rutherford says that it will be well worth the wait.. .

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  No sex???

  Whew!...Glad I bailed!

  satinka
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  Why do people have to steal what we say?

  by Lady Lee in

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  4 years ago i posted a series of articles here.

  i am always willing to share what i know and help people at the same time.. i feel honored when people say it has helped them as many of you have.

  and in an odd way i suppoe it is an honor to have someone think what i write is good enough to post somewhere else.. but i want to know where it is going and what it is being used for and i want my name attached to it either as lady lee or lee marsh.. i just discovered that somebody named david_aaron_phillips took something i wrote along with over 500 pages of things other people wrote, put it altogether into one huge document and posted it on the web.

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  Hi Lady Lee,

  I'm sorry to hear that your copyrights have been infringed upon.

  Yes, I agree with other posters that there needs to be a clear statement on this forum about the reproduction of copyrighted and third party material. And if anyone reads the Posting Guidelines right below the Post a Reply box used to write posts, there are such guidelines.

  5. Breaking the law
  This includes libel, condoning illegal activity and contempt of court (comments which might affect the outcome of an approaching court case). You may post a small amount of third party material, but please help us to avoid breaching copyright by naming its author and publication. We are unable to investigate all third party material, so where possible, please provide a link instead.

  Perhaps providing a link to the original material may have been preferable...?

  satinka
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  Elder wants to do "other activities" with me

  by InterestedOne in

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  i'm fully aware that this is a cult, and i was waiting for the social elements to kick in.

  so far, i have just been doing the "bible study," discussing doctrine, etc.

  however, recently one of the elders said he wants to get together with me to do other activities.

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  <---s-h-i-v-e-r-s RUN!!!

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  Did You Believe That The World Adored JW's?

  by mentallyfree31 in

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  as a jw, i always believed that the outside world adored us.

  i knew that many people didn't care for us, and didn't believe our teachings, but i thought our conduct was a "bright light" shining to the world.

  from the stage, we heard endless stories of business people and other non-jws praising us because we were such nice people.

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  I felt very much like a "hated bird"as I had very few friends. Our family was very weird.

  Maybe I still am a little ummmm...weird...

  satinka
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  I thought it wasnt bothering me. But it is.

  by mamalove in

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  do you ever feel that way about your jw past?

  maybe i need more time?

  i know that it is a lie.

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  mamalove

  I have been df'd since 2000. I have two kids who shun me --- and a grandchild that I never ever got to meet, born this past summer.

  For me, being "out" is perhaps about self-respect. In my situation, I concluded I must ultimately be true to myself. I could not live a lie and stay "in."

  Now, I feel pleased that I am df'd because that is what it took to get me to move on to a new life of my choosing --- a much healthier one.

  I moved to a new province, far away from the prying eyes of family and old congregation members, where I felt constantly watched.

  I journaled about my feelings, my losses, my sadness, the injustices I feel were done to me in the name of God and Christianity by the WT religion/cult.

  My best advice is to trust yourself and your own growth process. I try not to let the opinions of others shape me. Best to be true to myself, I have concluded.

  I have a blog. If you want to see it pm me. I feel that writing about it --- publicly --- is progress, like "coming out" To stay silent on the issue is to condone and enable disrespectful behavior. Most of my family knows I blog about the jws being an incredible excuse for a religion. It doesn't bother me anymore... Until I think about my kids and grandchild who I can't see. So I understand how you must be feeling, mamalove. Missing my kids won't make me go back, though. Trying to force me back "in" to see my kids feels too much like emotional blackmail. I won't allow that.

  The forum is here for you and I, dear one. Vent all you want. Write books, fill journals and trust the healing process.

  You are among friends,

  Love,

  satinka
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  Born Ins vs Converts

  by Red Piller in

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  first of all, let me say that i do think this excuse of a religion is on a downward spiral, which will only accelerate.. as a born in, i always read comments here about how dedicated and hard-line we are.

  most of the born ins (who stayed) develop a casual attitude toward everything.

  even if you believe it, hearing about armageddon, constantly, doesn't excite you as much when it's the 1,000th time you've heard it.

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  satinka

  I agree, I don't see how such a religion could possibly survive in this day and age. Their cultish ways are becoming more clear every day.

  Things could spiral downhill mighty fast for the WT.

  satinka