Posts by dontplaceliterature

It is showing a few more times, if you have that channel. It was very interesting. The cult that it follows uses a lot of the same lingo and focuses on a lot of the same scriptures as Jehovah's Witnesses. I wouldn't' say the similarities are mind-blowing, but they are definitely there. Steve Hassan and Robert Lifton are both interviewed throughout the film.

Here is the link to the site:

http://www.joinusthemovie.com/

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WORLDS APART~TEEN JW MOVIETONIGHT ON SUNDANCE @ 7 EST.

by AK MCGRATH in

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i was just flipping through the channels to find something for the woman i care for to watch, and i came across a movie tonight on the sundance channel called, "worlds apart".

it is about a jehovah's witness teen who falls in love with someone who is not.. although i can't watch it now, i am taping it.

i couldn't look to see if it is a documentary of sorts, but i bet it will be interesting to say the least.. it's on at 7 pm tonight, eastern.

dontplaceliterature

I just finished it. Fantastic!

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Transcript of Annual Meeting Notes and events from unknown source

by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat in

they were married for some 51 years.

you cannot stand up against them in battle.

you cannot stand up against him in battle.

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Sounds pretty boring.

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Anybody know anything about Scooters?

by Terry in

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i have never ridden/driven a motorcycle or a scooter.

but, i'm thinking about getting one.. in fact, a chinese scooter!.

they get 100 mpg on gasoline and they are under $900 bucks.. .

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They are fun to ride until your buddy sees you.

Around here, that's a nick-name for a cute chubby girls. (Please excuse the inappropriateness of this comment. I just couldn't help myself.)

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COs visit sep 2011 - feb 2012

by dozy in

apologies if already discussed - the second cos talk discusses 4 "important" areas where jws need to consider the biblical principles involved.. answers on a postcode ( clue - one word - 2 letters - 1st letter is "n" ).

should a true christian?:.

(1) use a social networking website.

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Anyone have a .mp3 or outline of this talk?

I have an especially conservative hard-liner for a Circuit Overseer. I'm curious how overboard he will go with this.

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I've lurked a long time: JW's produce some of the most paranoid humans

by Unlearn in

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i'll keep this brief for now.. long time lurker (4 years or so).. born-in, elder, used on district level (last talk i gave before i left was the baptisimal talk), and lots of hard time put in...before i finally made the move to split.

it's a long stoy, much like many of yours...but with it's own little interesting twists.

more details in the future, perhaps.. as i said, ive lurked here for a while.. its funny: for a long time i'd only come on late at night.

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@Unlearn

The "Blood Issue" was the first source of contention my wife expressed with the organization. Neither of us have a DPA card that we carry or on file at the Kingdom Hall. We both agreed that we would rather avoid that type of treatment, if possible. But if it came down to it, we would do what it took to preserve our child's or our own life.

I told her that if the Elders knew she felt that way, she'd be disfellowshipped. She promptly replied that it wasn't "any of their business." She thinks that she can have disagreements with the organization, keep them to herself, and hopefully never be put in the position to be exposed. She doesn't want the disruption in her social life style.

Part of the problem I have with her is that we are in a GREAT congregation, as far as congregations go. We have a pretty liberal Body of Elders, and a very warm and loving (but not nosey) congregation. We have several good friends we associate with regularly, and there is always something fun going on. I've wondered if I should look for an excuse to re-locate in an effort to accelerate her desire to leave.

We will outgrow the house we live in in another 2 or 3 years, and that would be an obvious chance to do such a thing as mentioned above. However, I would rather not wait that long.

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I've lurked a long time: JW's produce some of the most paranoid humans

by Unlearn in

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i'll keep this brief for now.. long time lurker (4 years or so).. born-in, elder, used on district level (last talk i gave before i left was the baptisimal talk), and lots of hard time put in...before i finally made the move to split.

it's a long stoy, much like many of yours...but with it's own little interesting twists.

more details in the future, perhaps.. as i said, ive lurked here for a while.. its funny: for a long time i'd only come on late at night.

dontplaceliterature

Unlearn,

I wish to give you a most hearty WELCOME! I'm quite envious that you have managed to escape the organization with your wife by your side. I agree with Franklin Massey - Your statement about scooping her up and 'running like hell' was beautiful. She's lucky to have you.

You mentioned something that has often proven to me that the whole 'system' in the organization for appointments was a big sham. There is no such thing as Holy Spirit's direction in the choosing, promotion, and maintaining of a decent body of elders within the congregation. Guys like you and I are living proof.

I am an active Ministerial Servant, and have been for 6 years. Until I stumbled onto this site, I was well on my way to "Elder-hood." Because of college education and natural ability, I am skilled at "The Art of Teaching" and am used quite frequently at the local level, on Shepherding Calls, and as an out-going speaker. In fact, I am scheduled out more frequently than some of the Elders on our body. The young people in my congregation are big fans, and I take a close interest in them - and my Elders love this. Our COBE has personally told me they would like to appoint me as an Elder if I "keep up the good work". I think they feel like I am too young, at the moment.

Now, I say all of that, not to brag, but to prove a point. I have been what most Jehovah's Witnesses would consider an 'apostate' for almost a year. I am one of the most liberal Jehovah's Witnesses I know (YOU CAN IDENTIFY!). I go to rock concerts, listen to 'debased' music when I want to, watch whatever movies I want to, use whatever language I want to, and I barely go in Field Service anymore. I can't remember the last time I prayed and actually thought Jehovah was listening. My wife and I haven't had a family study in at least 18 months. Yet, Jehovah's Holy Spirit hasn't seen fit to expose me. Why is that? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST!

I haven't met with my Field Service Group in 3 months, and I am the assistant! Still, last night, I received a request from my Service Group Overseer to join him on a Shepherding Call. He has never once mentioned to me that he's "missed me" or wondered if "everything was okay" as a result of my absence from our FS Group.

Now, you also mentioned that your wife had caught you looking at JWN while she was home sick from a meeting. You mentioned the impulse you had to immediately lie to her.

Yes, it is disgusting that the organization creates that kind of fear and distrust between a husband and wife.

I myself have been tempted to lie to my wife on more than one occasion about what I was doing online "all that time." However, I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I don't delete the Web Browser History, but I am very careful about leaving the browser window open. I never wanted her to be suspicious that I was "cheating" on her or addicted to pornography, etc.

Wouldn't you know it, while she was up late one night she checked the web browser history and decided to post her feelings under my screen name. You can read what she wrote here (about halfway down the page):

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/216276/4/Todays-Watchtower-Lesson-Really-Bothered-Me

She agrees with some of the things I have expressed to her. However, she does not think it's worth sacrificing our friends/family inside of the organization to move on with our life. She doesn't feel like there is another lifestyle that would bring her any more happiness than she already has. She doesn't want to leave at the moment.

The funny thing is, she signed her post as "Committed." So, if she does come around, she's already got a handle on JWN to go by!

I wish you the best of luck in your new life, and look forward to reading more of your posts! Again, a hearty welcome. I have really enjoyed reading your thoughts here!