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  Great campagne in Portugal (ex-JW)

  by TJ Curioso in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i like to tell you what we've been doing these past few days here in portugal (ex-jw).

  we create a brochure and printing, so we can send to the maximum of congregations in portugal.

  some individuals were also covered in this campaign.. the title of the pamphlet is: "when will the kingdom arrive?".

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  John_Mann

  Great work TJ Curioso (Curious JW...LOL)!
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  You know, I recently believed that Jesus was a cool guy....

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  after leaving the jdub world, for awhile it still seemed like the bible was still a holy book, something valuable, worthy, etc., and that the jw religion had just corrupted it and used it to their own ends.. i thought that jesus was like a bhudda, a guy going around taking about peace and love and who exposed the hypocrisy of the religious leaders.. .

  but he also said some hurtful things, harmful things, things like dividing up your family, things like whoever had more affection for their family than for him was not worthy of him, to not take time to bury your father but go preaching instead... to send out his followers without any food for the day but to rely on the kindness of others and believe that that kindness and charity expressed gods blessing and favour.... bah!.

  i now believe jesus was just another man, saying both good things and stupid things.

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  It's very easy to do pure evil in the name of Jesus basead on his teachings.

  Now try to think if someone can build a WT basead on Buddha's teaching or Confucio?

  That fact alone speaks volumes about the credibility of Jesus as a "cool guy".
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  You know, I recently believed that Jesus was a cool guy....

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  after leaving the jdub world, for awhile it still seemed like the bible was still a holy book, something valuable, worthy, etc., and that the jw religion had just corrupted it and used it to their own ends.. i thought that jesus was like a bhudda, a guy going around taking about peace and love and who exposed the hypocrisy of the religious leaders.. .

  but he also said some hurtful things, harmful things, things like dividing up your family, things like whoever had more affection for their family than for him was not worthy of him, to not take time to bury your father but go preaching instead... to send out his followers without any food for the day but to rely on the kindness of others and believe that that kindness and charity expressed gods blessing and favour.... bah!.

  i now believe jesus was just another man, saying both good things and stupid things.

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  John_Mann

  Just facts:

  Jesus teached how to treat a slave and not how to abolish slavery.

  Jesus said if you want to be neutral to him you are an enemy.

  He used very screwed illustrations like cannibalism and self injury.

  He used hell of eternal fire as coersion.
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  Is belief in heaven after death relatively new to Christianity?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was surprised awhile ago when researching about cremation how until maybe 1940's or 1950's even catholics forbid cremation.

  the reason for no cremation was because they believed in a physical resurrection and cremation was a rejection of physical resurrection.

  it seems nowadays no christians believe in a earthly resurrection, only that they all go to heaven.

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  There's no such thing as life on a paradise earth in the bible.

  The bible says the earth will be burned.

  And another one will be created in a glorified form.
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  Is belief in heaven after death relatively new to Christianity?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was surprised awhile ago when researching about cremation how until maybe 1940's or 1950's even catholics forbid cremation.

  the reason for no cremation was because they believed in a physical resurrection and cremation was a rejection of physical resurrection.

  it seems nowadays no christians believe in a earthly resurrection, only that they all go to heaven.

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  John_Mann

  Mainstream christians believe in a physical ressurection when the souls will be reunited with the flesh to the last judgment in the last day.

  After that they bodies will be modified to be imperishable and they will go to heaven or hell with the glorified body, as Jesus did.

  They quote a verse from Job that says something like "these very eyes and not others will see the judgment".

  They believe the very same dust from your deceased body will came back to life.

  It's a vestiginal egyptian belief that survived in christianism.

  WT misuses some texts about the flesh ressurection.
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  Does Death Exist? New theory says "No"

  by jam in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  maybe someone can post "www.robertlanza.co.

  i hope mr lanza is right in his theory because it is scary not knowing.

  where in the hell i will end up after i die..lol.

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  John_Mann

  Here's a quote from Wittgenstein that agrees with my view:

  “Death is not an event in life: we do not live to experience death. If we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live in the present. Our life has no end in the way in which our visual field has no limits.”
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  Does Death Exist? New theory says "No"

  by jam in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  maybe someone can post "www.robertlanza.co.

  i hope mr lanza is right in his theory because it is scary not knowing.

  where in the hell i will end up after i die..lol.

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  John_Mann

  @Punk: But if you does not experience death, how could you know when you pass through it? If this hypothesis is correct you are always dying and slipping to other universes. Even in this universe we cannot be sure when our consciousness started. When we look back to our conscious life we just see a lot of noise. It's just like a game architect sets the background as a dangling carrot around the player, you always see the background but it moves at same rate as you move. Subjectively speaking your consciousness "start" does not matches with your birth. Same thing when you think about your death, if you pay attention your birth is just a weird event as your future death. You just can talk about your birth and your death as a third person event. That's exactly how a game background works, just to give you an illusion of perspective to a specific level (or universe). It does not matter where you came from or where you going, just interact with the things inside your reach. Same thing happens in our dreams too, we always start in a dream doing something, in my case I usually start in a dream in walking mode. But in dreams we are more interested in the instant action, rarely we stop to think from where we came from or to where we'll go. Try to emulate this mindset to your waking life and you'll enjoy a very good life.

  @EOM: We could slip to a universe where the old age was eradicated just in time to you get the cure.

  Travel in time in one universe seems to be pretty impossible. But we can travel back or forward by slipping into a universe identical to this one, but with a different time frame. So we can travel in time by travelling through universes. I tend to be sympathetic with the hypothesis of memory being a kind of mind travel through universes.

  And for those who think is impossible to exist such vast number of universes, there's a hypothesis that says just a lonely electron can produce an entire universe. Search about one-electron universe.
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  Another Shooting Massacre

  by whathehadas in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://abcnews.go.com/us/santa-barbara-shooting-suspect-calls-loneliness-darkest-hell/story?id=23855994&ts=true.

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  John_Mann

  He reminds the Apostle Paul.
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  Does Death Exist? New theory says "No"

  by jam in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  maybe someone can post "www.robertlanza.co.

  i hope mr lanza is right in his theory because it is scary not knowing.

  where in the hell i will end up after i die..lol.

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  John_Mann

  It's not a theory, it's a hypothesis.

  It depends on if the multiuniverse theory is right or not.
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  Does Death Exist? New theory says "No"

  by jam in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  maybe someone can post "www.robertlanza.co.

  i hope mr lanza is right in his theory because it is scary not knowing.

  where in the hell i will end up after i die..lol.

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  John_Mann

  Well try to cross a bullet through your brain and see if quantum suicide is a possible hypothesis.

  By this hypothesis you never experience death in first person perspective. Your consciousness just slip to a slightly different universe where your shot fails and you continues to live.