JW's are positivists because they take a spiritual concept (worship to most high being) and applies a materialistic method to it with relatories and questions-answers studies.
John_Mann
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Duns! Logical Positivism
by Country Joe inhi dan!.
i came across this logical positivism term and was wondering what your view on it is.
the great philosophers did it as a proffessional career.
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Transubstantiation?
by leavingwt indoes anyone here accept the doctrine of transubstantiation?
if so, please elaborate.
theology: the changing of the elements of the bread and wine, when they are consecrated in the eucharist, into the body and blood of christ (a doctrine of the roman catholic church).
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John_Mann
Question for John Mann: what is a difference between a "transformation" that is not physically observable, and atransformation that is said to only occur symbolically?
A non physical transformation still is a transformation.
Deniers of transubstantiation doesn't say a transformation takes place. Symbolically or not.
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Video: Dear Believer, Why Do You Believe?
by Believer ini was asked to view the video “dear believer, why do you believe?” i said i would and i would publish my comments about it.
so here are my comments.
after my post, i hope other believers will post theirs comments about it.
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John_Mann
You fools! Everyone is a believer.
The believers just don't believe in the same thing.
The first choice you have to take is:
The mind is independent of the matter. Or not.
Both positions are believes.
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Introduction - Any Believers?
by Believer ini’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.
i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.
i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.
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John_Mann
@bonsai Do you have some idea from your own or all you have is just canned leftist slogans? -
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Transubstantiation?
by leavingwt indoes anyone here accept the doctrine of transubstantiation?
if so, please elaborate.
theology: the changing of the elements of the bread and wine, when they are consecrated in the eucharist, into the body and blood of christ (a doctrine of the roman catholic church).
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John_Mann
The substance of the bread and wine are transformed. But the physical aspects (accidents) are the same. They remained the same because it was the same with Christ, his body was human, material. But he was God at the same time, but if you saw him you would see a man like any other.
In the Eucharist three things happen : sacrifice, resurrection and glorification.
It's a kind of time travel because it's not a different sacrifice but the same one at the Cross. Because that was an eternal act, the eternity in Catholicism it's not an infinite amount of time but a timeless moment. The sacrifice of the Lamb goes eternally to future and past in our spacetime.
Way before Einstein the Eucharist already have the concept of relative time. Even if one does not believe in this it must have to admit that this was a very sophisticated concept to be created so long ago.
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Nobody at work knows what JWs believe
by Athanasius inrecently susie, one of my co-workers mentioned that her husband's family were all jws.
the family converted after susie's husband left home, so he never joined the jws, nor does he intend to.
anyway another co-worker asked her: "what do the jws believe?".
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John_Mann
What I've heard about JW's
1- no birthdays.
2- no Christmas.
3 - no blood.
4- no Jesus.
5- it's a cult.
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Introduction - Any Believers?
by Believer ini’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.
i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.
i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.
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John_Mann
When I left I lost my faith. But now I admit the Catholic Church have the most complete faith and philosophy about it.
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Do you still believe in the concept of absolute truth?
by JW_Rogue injws very much believe that there is an absolute truth and of course, they are the only ones who have it lol.
how about now though do you still believe that absolute truths exist?
or is everything subjective?
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John_Mann
Yes, there are absolute or universal truth.
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slimboyfat joins the Mormons!
by slimboyfat ini know that some people on the board have experience of being mormons, so i would be interested in your feedback.
at church this afternoon it was an uncanny experience.
in the past i've read a lot about mormons, so i thought i was prepared in general for what it would be like.
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John_Mann
Mormons are the same JW BS.
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In the paradise JWs will have a standard uniform
by RodrigoGuerreiro inanyone else notice this on the last video of the regional convention 2016?.
frame stills:.
conclusion: it seems that the paradise will not be only the end of wickedness but also the end of the jws typical cheap polyester suits :-p.
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John_Mann
Very cultish