Posts by John_Mann

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Evolution Deniers - An Endangered Species
by cofty in
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2. beliefs
evolution explains how everything descended from a common ancestor over millions of years.

creationists only seem to want to talk about what came before that common ancestor.

just for the sake of discussion let's pretend that the following is true.
John_Mann

Saint Augustine said Genesis is an allegory. He lived in the 4th century. No need to adapt the Catholic theology.
Jews also never considered Genesis as science.
Genesis (creation, deluge, babel, etc) comes from old and lost religions of Mesopotamia.
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Atheism = self defeating.
by towerwatchman in
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2. beliefs
atheism = self defeating.

first may we define our terms.

the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
John_Mann

In fact on the philosophical scene evolution is not a scientific theory, but metaphysical. Evolution is an abstract, speculative philosophy. Evolution does not qualify as a scientific theory.
Evolutionism is a philosophical position but the theory of evolution is science.
Evolution is an empirical fact. The theory of evolution explains this fact.
The theory of evolution and atheism are completely unrelated.
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"Forced" study with an Elder - The first question i will pose, help appreciated.
by CitizenofEarth in
1. watchtower
2. bible
hello folks.

as some of you might know my dad couldnt keep quiet about my view of the world, so i have been "forced" to study with an elder.

otherwise i would be dragged to questioning, which is to much pressure for a young inexperienced person like me.
John_Mann

Ask if he believes the apostasy was total since the death of the Apostles until 1918.
If yes, why Jesus said His Church would never fail since He promised to personally care for the Church survival until His second coming? Jesus failed?
If not, why create a new church like the Watchtower.
Ask as a sincere doubt and you will see a living Laocoon in front of you.
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So according to the bible, "believing" is enough to have everlasting life.
by NikL in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i am certain this has been brought up many times before.

according to john 6.... 44 no man can come to me unless the father, who sent me, draws him,+ and i will resurrect him on the last day.+ 45 it is written in the prophets: ‘they will all be taught by jehovah.+ everyone who has listened to the father and has learned comes to me.

46 not that any man has seen the father,+ except the one who is from god; this one has seen the father.+ 47 most truly i say to you, whoever believes has everlasting life.+.
John_Mann

Sola Fide.
Luther wanted to ban the books of James and Revelation.
He called the book of James as "straw letter"
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Atheism = self defeating.
by towerwatchman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
atheism = self defeating.

first may we define our terms.

the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
John_Mann

Evolution is empirically evident.
The theory of evolution is the most established theory in science.
Even in a literal interpretation the Bible says the earth produced man and animal. Obviously an indirect creation. The only direct creation is the immortal soul.
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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS
by kpop in
1. watchtower
2. bible
so it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.

how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?

how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.
John_Mann

Christians preach through conversation.
Islam will never do this. Just violence.
Who can stop Islam? What history says?
One useful feature of Christianity is the ability to stop Islam. Atheists must consider this. The threat of Islam is real.
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Atheism = self defeating.
by towerwatchman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
atheism = self defeating.

first may we define our terms.

the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
John_Mann

Because if there wasn't anything, we wouldn't be thinking about something.
This is the answer for "there's something?".
But if everything inevitably returns to nothing then something is not the default but a disturbance.
What caused this disturbance? And why? Must be something beyond nothing.
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Atheism = self defeating.
by towerwatchman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
atheism = self defeating.

first may we define our terms.

the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
John_Mann

If the greatest equalizer is oblivion or nothingness.
What and why disturbed this nothing?
Why there's something rather than nothing?
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Atheism = self defeating.
by towerwatchman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
atheism = self defeating.

first may we define our terms.

the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
John_Mann

The infinite regress can only be treated with logic.
And thought experiments are in realm of logic. You can't apply the scientific method in this case. No matter what Scientism says about this.
The most popular thought experiment about the infinite regress is the shooting soldiers.
We start with the axiom of the existence of something.
Something exists. Why there's something instead of nothing? Because there's a cause or infinite regress?
There's something. Let's say this something is a gunshot.
Imagine a row (tending to infinity) of soldiers. Every soldier ask to his superior behind (representing the hierarchical chain of cause and effect) an order to shoot.
Let's suppose that a soldier wants to shoot a bullet, but in order to so he must receive an order from his superior, and his superior must himself receive the order from his superior .... if this chain goes to infinity, the first soldier will never shoot a bullet.
If infinite regress is real the order to shoot would never be made. But there's a gunshot (something) so must be a first cause who gave the order to shoot.
If infinite regress is true then the inevitable question arises "why there's something rather than nothing?"
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Atheism = self defeating.
by towerwatchman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
atheism = self defeating.

first may we define our terms.

the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
John_Mann

But I don't want to be given the label of nihilist
But you really is a nihilist punk. LOL
What's the problem with a true definition?
I just don't agree with you in the grumpy label. ;)
You being a nihilist I can't give any meaningful statement to you but I can say to you someday you'll be very surprised with the fact that oblivion doesn't exist at all.