Pure madness. Could someone like this have the right to drive a car?
John_Mann
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prophecy, Revelation, Christ returns, and many more
by livinstone into all christ believers, truth about man made churches around the world.
these prophecies are of no private interpretation 2 peter 1:20. my testimony on video is all real just google "christ testimony of the churches around the world".this message is not a joke before the lord and his christ.
book of revelation and daniel prophecy about the beast and 42 months of spiritual perdition-i am the witness in seeing the beast ascended out of the bottomless pit and in spiritual perdition right now.
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Atheists, here is a 'balls' question ---even for all---
by prologos init is very difficult to knock a ball into a hole (like golf), throw it into a receiver's hands (american football) intercept it and knock it over the fence (american cricket).
or to put a sattelite at the right time at the right speed in the right direction in the right place to have it orbit another body, so :.
what ingenious natural & process is it, than can get 9+ zillions bodies to get into the right orbit simultaniously or sequentially and have them remain there for billions of years?
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John_Mann
The OP is a shameless "sentient puddle" fallacy.
Imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in, an interesting hole I find myself in, fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact, it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' This is such a powerful idea that as the Sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, it's still frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be all right, because this World was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise.
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Is the Governing Body trolling us?
by kneehighmiah ini'm starting to believe the bethel higher ups are trolling us.
the outright contradictions and stuff like overlapping generation is too ridiculous.
calling out the harold camping when we did the same thing.
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John_Mann
LOL
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Jesus washing feet in underwear or naked?
by John_Mann injohn 13:4,5. got up from the evening meal and laid aside his outer garments.
and taking a towel, he wrapped it around his waist.. after that he put water into a basin and started to wash the feet of the disciples and to dry them off with the towel that was wrapped around him.. .
the wt "translates" himatia as outer garments but some other translations says just clothes.. if he were wearing just an underwear, why wrap a towel around the waist?
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John_Mann
John 13:4,5
got up from the evening meal and laid aside his outer garments. And taking a towel, he wrapped it around his waist.
After that he put water into a basin and started to wash the feet of the disciples and to dry them off with the towel that was wrapped around him.
The WT "translates" himatia as outer garments but some other translations says just clothes.
If he were wearing just an underwear, why wrap a towel around the waist? Usually one just wrap a towel around the waist when naked.
Even if he were in underwear it's a very strange situation...
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Why doesn't god do anything tangible now?
by punkofnice ini was always told that god did loads of stuff that was evidence of his existance.
ususally very brutal things too (b#st@rd).. jesus walked on water and raised the dead we are told.. it seems to me also that the older the story, the more exaggerated it is...y'know...talking snake......global flood.. there are those that claim god speaks to them now and they alone 'know' it.
(cuckoo!!!).
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John_Mann
If you just think in how much sacrifice and time you give to god when you was a JW, the only excuse for such incompetent god is his non existence.
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Interesting comments from a certain JW forum...
by konceptual99 inthese are snippets from a thread on change to circuit boundaries in the us please don't assume a single narrative here.. well, we just had a letter tonight saying that the branch has decided to dissolve 2 of the ohio circuits, one being ohio circuit #3 which i am in.
ohio circuit #3 will continue to exist until the new service year in september, at which point the congregations making up our circuit will be redistributed to other current circuits.
we'll be moving to ohio circuit #8.. interestingly, our sister congregation with whom we share the same hall was assigned to a completely different circuit, along with a lot of others we are used to seeing at our assemblies.
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Why do so many exJWs promote Watchtower lies and cover-ups?
by Fernando inseveral footnotes in the nwt correctly define apostasy as "unfaithfulness".. that is spiritual unfaithfulness/adultery/fornication/prostitution/harlotry.. in scripture the jews were called (spiritual) prostitutes (37 times in ezekiel chapters 16 and 23).. they claimed a relationship with the god of abraham.. yet they lusted after other gods.. and they had frequent wanton spiritual intercourse with these gods.. to cover-up their own lewd apostasy the watctower lyingly redefines the word to mean a dissenter (against the watchtower).. anyone who dissents is labelled an apostate.. ray franz discovered their apostasy.. he dissented.. he exposed their spiritual harlotry in detail (isocf and coc).. they lyingly labelled him an apostate.. and many if not most exjws say this is all fine.. even worse, many exjws proudly wear the label.. to show their proud support of watchtower lies and cover-ups.. how sad....
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John_Mann
Atheist is a label from the theists too; capitalist is a label from the comunists; Pagan from the christians; etc...
Almost every antagonic label comes from the side that uses propaganda.
Does your side label the opponents?
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Resurrection without a soul that survives death.
by Pronger1 inone thing (among many) that always bothered me about jw teachings is what happens to the soul when we die.
sure god could be capable of creating a body and implanting it with all of our life experiences an memories.
but how would not be a just a clone instead of being actually us?
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They don't admit but they believe in a inanimate soul after death. A kind of backup survives death and keep frozen like an embryo. They say this frozen backup are in Jehovah's memory.
The most bizarre thing it's not to realize you are a clone if you are ressurected. But in JW worldview it's allowed to Jehovah make a clone of yourself even when you're alive.
This doctrine is absolute nonsense if you want to be "bible based".
But in real life I think our minds (and everything else) can be in some way stored in the spacetime matrix. If we could use quantum entanglement to particles in the past that once formed the pattern of our brains I think we could copy any brain\mind ever existed.
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Read a tribute to Ray and Cynthia Franz and leave your condolences at this webpage:
by AndersonsInfo ina webpage tribute to cynthia & ray can be found at http://www.commentarypress.com/.
on the bottom of that webpage is a place that you can leave your condolences and thoughtful commentsfor the families of cynthia and ray.. for more information about cynthia's death, see http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/270338/1/cynthia-franz-died-december-29-2013#.utl16zdnbl8.
barbara and joe.
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John_Mann
I'm free from WT thanks to CoC of Raymond Franz.
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Christians please answer something for me
by confusedandalone inor should i say some things.... reading over another thread and a number of other threads i have to ask, why are we making excuses for jesus / god.. how can you fathom and all powerful god who created the universe and all the laws that govern it was not capable of:.
1. making sure the proper pronunciation of his name is not available.
2. that all his teaching are not preserved in an easy to discern manner so that ther is no confusion.
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John_Mann
I was a born again christian (during 4 weeks) after my exit from WT.
But I can wear my rusty christian armor and my big shiny faith shield sometimes.
But don't take my speech as a sattire, christians really believe and "think" in this way.
It's useless to discuss with people like that, they don't want know about anything and just want some huge attention due to the lack of attention from their GOOOOD. It's an interesting state of conscience just like a synthetic LSD. You really feel special and confident when you act like a born again christian zealot. Christians are addicted to this brain sensation and can't do nothing to stop it. It's creepy when you think people with power in hands are addicted to this stuff.