No there are no reasons at all. Not even one. Endless repetition doesn't make it so.
Not even law?
Law does not distinguish between a non human animal from a human person?
John_Mann
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Why are the evolutionist's so upset?
by Esse quam videri inso many evolutionist's on this forum are upset at the terror attacks in europe such as recently in sweden.
it is just a logical step in the evolution of the human race.
should you not rather be celebrating the great changes taking place right before your eyes and constructing detailed explanations of the cell structure and dna development in the human brain.. you can't eat your cake and still have it.
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John_Mann
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Why are the evolutionist's so upset?
by Esse quam videri inso many evolutionist's on this forum are upset at the terror attacks in europe such as recently in sweden.
it is just a logical step in the evolution of the human race.
should you not rather be celebrating the great changes taking place right before your eyes and constructing detailed explanations of the cell structure and dna development in the human brain.. you can't eat your cake and still have it.
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John_Mann
Insulting those who accept this simple fact by calling them "cultish" is a pathetic attempt to excuse yourself from the burden of proof.
Well, actually I said the view is cultish. This is not an ad hominem fallacy and you know that. And the scientism view is not a fact.
You always seem to confuse philosophical fact and scientific data (also called scientific fact) too.
BTW, do you mind to define in your words what scientism is and why you personally is not a follower of scientism?
I think you're a very clear example of a follower of scientism. But you always seem to deny that and I don't know why you do that.
At least I clearly assume my position as a Catholic.
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Why are the evolutionist's so upset?
by Esse quam videri inso many evolutionist's on this forum are upset at the terror attacks in europe such as recently in sweden.
it is just a logical step in the evolution of the human race.
should you not rather be celebrating the great changes taking place right before your eyes and constructing detailed explanations of the cell structure and dna development in the human brain.. you can't eat your cake and still have it.
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John_Mann
There is no good reason to assume we are more than biology.
Is assumed in law.
There's a big difference in law between killing an animal or a human.
Liking you or not we have a lot of reasons to assume we are more than biology.
Not only religious reasons... That comes later, you know, after death... The real Judgement will take place.
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Evolution Deniers - An Endangered Species
by cofty inevolution explains how everything descended from a common ancestor over millions of years.
creationists only seem to want to talk about what came before that common ancestor.
just for the sake of discussion let's pretend that the following is true.
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John_Mann
it was just a passing comment by a poster who'd gotten fed up with the narrow physicality of science offered by some posters
Yes, this forum is full of followers of the cult of scientism.
Funny thing is the majority of them are not even conscious of being brainwashed by scientism.
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Why are the evolutionist's so upset?
by Esse quam videri inso many evolutionist's on this forum are upset at the terror attacks in europe such as recently in sweden.
it is just a logical step in the evolution of the human race.
should you not rather be celebrating the great changes taking place right before your eyes and constructing detailed explanations of the cell structure and dna development in the human brain.. you can't eat your cake and still have it.
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John_Mann
If there's no difference between humans and animals then yes nobody could be surprised with genocide.
That's the logical conclusion from this premise.
The theory of evolution really says humans and animals have no biological differences in some kind of superiority.
But the theory doesn't says this premise extrapolates biology. Actually both Darwin and Wallace recognized the problem of consciousness in ToE. Wallace spent the rest of his life trying to find a paranormal explanation about consciousness. He is not remembered as Darwin because this.
Of course the majority of humans know we are more than just biology. That's why this biological premise is not acceptable in law.
But some people think humans are just biology. This view it's not from science but from scientism. This cultish view is very wide spread today.
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Evolution Deniers - An Endangered Species
by cofty inevolution explains how everything descended from a common ancestor over millions of years.
creationists only seem to want to talk about what came before that common ancestor.
just for the sake of discussion let's pretend that the following is true.
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John_Mann
What forum? What idea?
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Evolution Deniers - An Endangered Species
by cofty inevolution explains how everything descended from a common ancestor over millions of years.
creationists only seem to want to talk about what came before that common ancestor.
just for the sake of discussion let's pretend that the following is true.
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John_Mann
@Ruby
Thank you!
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Evolution Deniers - An Endangered Species
by cofty inevolution explains how everything descended from a common ancestor over millions of years.
creationists only seem to want to talk about what came before that common ancestor.
just for the sake of discussion let's pretend that the following is true.
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John_Mann
@Ruby
Thank you!
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Evolution Deniers - An Endangered Species
by cofty inevolution explains how everything descended from a common ancestor over millions of years.
creationists only seem to want to talk about what came before that common ancestor.
just for the sake of discussion let's pretend that the following is true.
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John_Mann
We don't have a definition of consciousness or intelligence other than that other animals have the same sort of thing in various stages of development.
I'm not a creationist. I accept the whole theory of evolution.
And yes we have an intuitive definition of consciousness. That's why I mentioned law. Maybe the definition of consciousness is just like the undefined terms of geometry (point, line and plane). But I know you're very biased toward scientism and will never accept humans can get knowledge beyond the scientific method.
The theory of evolution doesn't grab consciousness. Darwin tried all his life include consciousness in ToE.
Wallace is not well remembered because he knew ToE was lacking an explanation of consciousness then he spent the rest of his life trying to get a paranormal explanation into science.
Darwin and Wallace always knew the problem of consciousness and the inability of ToE to explain it.
There is no single feature that makes us all that different from most of our primate cousins except that we lucked into a situation ~20k years ago that benefited us greatly.
Sense of justice, infinity, art and so on. Please show me traces of our sense of justice in animals.
At that point you see the emergence of tools, fire and art which accelerated the development even further.
As I said tools don't need consciousness only intelligence.
You can't really pinpoint a particular emergence of our species to a fixed period, that is the above posters' fallacy.
I never said that.
These things take time thousands of years worth of time where you see what we now call "humans" interbreed with what we now call "proto-humans".
Not proto-humans. Anatomically they were identical. Adam was only the first homo sapiens to receive consciousness. An unsouled human was just like a person with a mild mental deficiency.
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Evolution Deniers - An Endangered Species
by cofty inevolution explains how everything descended from a common ancestor over millions of years.
creationists only seem to want to talk about what came before that common ancestor.
just for the sake of discussion let's pretend that the following is true.
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John_Mann
I think the bicameral mind appeared about 20,000 to 10,000BC. But was a gradual origin.